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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

NHS Fife tries to silence nurse

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Hoardasurass · 13/10/2024 09:36

So as has been mentioned on threads about the Darlington nurses a nurse is sueing NHS Fife over its trans staff policy.
The poor nurse was forced to get changed infront of a man in the female changing facilities, when she complained about it she was 1st told to change in a cupboard if she didn't like it, then they tried to bully her into swapping shifts so she didn't work with the man in question (she wouldn't), then they wanted her to move hospital (again she refused) so then they suspended her without pay for months until her solicitor got involved and now they are trying to gag her by insisting that the court case (starts in February) must be held in secret (I wonder why) and will be in crt next month asking to restrict reporting on the case.

This case is really important in Scotland because the trans staff policy that's going on trial in this case is the Scottish government's own policy used in all public sector organisations in Scotland and works on self id. So when this case is won it will finally kill the Scottish government's self id policy in all public bodies

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/nhs-fife-fights-secret-hearings-33877891?utm_source=linkCopy&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar

NHS Fife fights for secret hearings in trans woman in female changing room case

NHS Fife is facing landmark legal action by a nurse suspended after complaining about a transwoman in a female changing room.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/nhs-fife-fights-secret-hearings-33877891

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themostspecialelfintheworkshop · 04/02/2025 11:13

If Upton empathised he wouldn't be note taking, complaining about lack of eye contact or INVADING THE WOMEN'S CHANGING ROOM.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 04/02/2025 11:14

Expressing sympathy is not the same as being sympathetic!

TWETMIRF · 04/02/2025 11:14

I'm sorry you feel that way but I'm going to do it anyway

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 04/02/2025 11:15

TWETMIRF · 04/02/2025 11:14

I'm sorry you feel that way but I'm going to do it anyway

Exactly.

seXX · 04/02/2025 11:16

I don't think she said that he was indifferent yesterday, she just said he didn't seem upset, I think. Not the same. He can say he's sorry in a neutral tone and still not mean it

Boiledbeetle · 04/02/2025 11:16

I don't care how sympathetic a bloke may be towards me, if I found them in a women's only space. The only thing I'd care about was whether they left or not at that point.

Beth chose not to leave. That is entirely on Beth. I'm not seeing the supposed kindness and sympathy from Beth personally. And SP was probably a damn sight more polite than I'd have been.

seXX · 04/02/2025 11:17

JR just deadnamed Bryson!!

GCITC · 04/02/2025 11:17

Russell has just deadnamed Isla Bryson! The sheer transphobia!!

Boiledbeetle · 04/02/2025 11:18

GCITC · 04/02/2025 11:17

Russell has just deadnamed Isla Bryson! The sheer transphobia!!

😱

TWETMIRF · 04/02/2025 11:19

I'm confused as to why proceedings weren't immediately halted so JR could be arrested for such blatant deadnaning

Boiledbeetle · 04/02/2025 11:19

God I need a pee and a cup of tea please let them break soon.

nauticant · 04/02/2025 11:19

It would seem that any gender critical woman will be stitched up in a first level internal investigation in the NHS. How many women have had to give up at that point? More importantly, the chilling effect of that must be considerable.

Boiledbeetle · 04/02/2025 11:20

JR back to Beths contemporaneous notes...

Boiledbeetle · 04/02/2025 11:21

JR lets start at the beginning...

AnnaMagnani · 04/02/2025 11:21

How exactly was Upton being kind and empathetic?

The only response to a woman having a bad period is to stop what you are doing and check what she needs.

Even the men I know would do this.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 04/02/2025 11:21

I find these notes that Upton made fascinating - he seems to have made rather a lot of them

ickky · 04/02/2025 11:21

Fuck me, Beth's notes must be like War and Peace.

themostspecialelfintheworkshop · 04/02/2025 11:21

Boiledbeetle · 04/02/2025 11:20

JR back to Beths contemporaneous notes...

Ah the Stasi note taking on woman wrongthink

Boiledbeetle · 04/02/2025 11:22

Are you sitting comfortably ladies...

Once Upton a time there was a doctor...

themostspecialelfintheworkshop · 04/02/2025 11:22

It's a wonder Upton gets time to treat any patients with all this monitoring of women's speech.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 04/02/2025 11:23

Surely it depends if the notes were truthful?

littlbrowndog · 04/02/2025 11:23

Thanks everyone for writing what’s happening at the hearing

I can’t watch live

Boiledbeetle · 04/02/2025 11:24

Seems to be going through Beths 'notes' line by line.

This could take a while.

Szygy · 04/02/2025 11:24

Peregrina · 04/02/2025 11:01

let's pass over the fact that the person now actually working didn’t qualify under that name but hey ho

The lazy argument that people change their names all the time doesn't wash. They do, I have done on marriage, but I produce my marriage certificate to show the change. What evidence did Theodore Upton produce? Non, it seems.

I agree with you, Peregrina, I wasn’t making light of it. I don't understand how a person was able to qualify for this highly responsible and difficult job and is now specifically prohibited from doing it on the grounds that they, apparently, no longer even exist. Whereas someone completely different, but mysteriously the same, who didn’t study and qualify, is miraculously allowed to do said job.

Madcats · 04/02/2025 11:24

JR - and then the note says 'she cut me off' , that's a rather aggressive thing to do
SP - normally yes but it wasn't a normal situation.

I think SP is entitled to be a bit miffed that the hulking great Doctor wouldn't remove himself from the CR so she could deal with her bloodied clothing with dignity.

Do you think Dr Upton will play an ASD diagnosis card in due course; he appears to have the sensitivity of a cardboard box

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