NHS Fife tries to silence nurse

[Hoardasurass]

So as has been mentioned on threads about the Darlington nurses a nurse is sueing NHS Fife over its trans staff policy.
The poor nurse was forced to get changed infront of a man in the female changing facilities, when she complained about it she was 1st told to change in a cupboard if she didn't like it, then they tried to bully her into swapping shifts so she didn't work with the man in question (she wouldn't), then they wanted her to move hospital (again she refused) so then they suspended her without pay for months until her solicitor got involved and now they are trying to gag her by insisting that the court case (starts in February) must be held in secret (I wonder why) and will be in crt next month asking to restrict reporting on the case.

This case is really important in Scotland because the trans staff policy that's going on trial in this case is the Scottish government's own policy used in all public sector organisations in Scotland and works on self id. So when this case is won it will finally kill the Scottish government's self id policy in all public bodies

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/nhs-fife-fights-secret-hearings-33877891?utm_source=linkCopy&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar

Hopefully Naomi Cunningham will unpack some of these assumptions.

Presumably there will be people involved in this investigation on the stand.

I'm feeling very unsisterly towards Russel right now

If Dr Upton was not allowed to use the male changing room then that would be direct discrimination on the basis of gender reassignment by his employer. A male being told he cannot do what other males can do purely due to a PC he has that they do not.

Did you REALLY feel intimated by this person?

Yes

So why did you have this conversation alone at midnight with this person?

I expected Beth to leave with the other staff and I didn't expect Beth to stay in the room

So you thought she'd leave with others but she didn't. Something about hand washing. There was a pause between when the others had left and when you decided to start that conversation. I'd considering you were so scared b at midnight.

Correct I didn't want too leave changing area with the mess in due to menstruation. I was intimated when he started to take his clothes off and i was in an embarrassing situation. Didn't want to be alone with a male taking his clothes off.

I’d forgotten how patronising SR is.
Is class a massive issue in the legal profession?
I remember watching Prima Facie and thinking how striking sex and class combine to make a woman extremely vulnerable

JR scared and intimidated mean same, so if your not scared you're not really intimated are you?😬😬😬😬😬

She is doing her job.

It is hard to hear but everyone has a right to legal representation.

it's curious that dr upton wrote notes saying that he is aware that at least 1 nurse feels intimidated by him using the women's changing room and yet he continues to use them. Why didn't he ask for somewhere else to change? JR implying that Upton is very empathetic - where's the evidence for that?

Does anyone ever make eye contact in a changing room?

Surely normal UK behaviour is to look at the ground, while trying simultaneously to undress and keep private bits covered at all times, as fast as possible, without falling over?

Absolutely - this is a very weird line that would lay the trust open to all sorts of other allegations

God this poor woman, I hadn't realised she needed the changing room because she was having a bad period. Just adds to the vulnerability and humiliation.

TBH if I, a natal female, was in a small changing room with a colleague who was bleeding I would have quickly used the loo and left to give them privacy.

I wonder if there'll be signficant re-examination of Peggie by NC. There doesn't seem to be much in these tribunals but I think it might be called for here, with Russell being so gameplaying over words.

The big question here is whether Beth continued undressing his male body. Saying you're sorry whilst flashing isn't really much of an apology.

I'm glad that Nurse Peggie was able to remind the judge that the reason that she was in, and needed to be in, the changing room was because she needed to completely change out of her bloody clothing and didn't want staff/patients to notice.

I just want to hug SP right now. This is awful.

This. Yet again Beth shows a total lack of understanding of what a woman would do.

JR I suggest your purpose was not to engender understanding but to harangue her.

SP not at all.

"I have slipped up and said she" :)

JR your intention is to call her a man because she is a man.

SP that's Correct.

I have once had a flooding episode at work. Female staff immediately formed a wall around me, ushered me as fast as possible to a changing room while someone else ran off for some scrubs. Which then got handed to me through the door while they looked in the other direction.

Honestly if someone came into a changing room bleeding while I was there, I'd be rushing to make sure they were private, flapping about trying to find them towels, clean clothes, checking they were OK.

Not making notes about whether we had eye contact.

You keep saying he's a man.

That's because he is both biologically and legally

This case is making me particularly angry too. Luckily I’m going to the gym in a bit, so can work some if it off.

if he wasn't a man, none of this would have happened, so clearly the whole point is that he IS a man.