Scores of actresses turn down roles in play critical of JK Rowling’s gender views.

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/06/13/scores-actresses-turn-down-roles-play-critical-jk-rowling

"The stage production, which is set to debut at the Edinburgh Fringe, has already caused outrage over a working title which labelled the gender-critical Harry Potter author a c----."

"The production is yet to cast any of the female roles, including that of Rowling herself."

"Actors have been found for male leads, who will portray Harry Potter cast members Rupert Grint and Daniel Radcliffe."

They are saying that they're a bunch of muppets. Fair play, I support your right to self identify as a muppet, crack on.

It is what is behind the advocating of those safe spaces for women that raises the issues though isn't it and it is very far from insane.
If you do not support the idea that gender is not as simple as the biological parts you were born with and that as a consequence trans women are in fact women and entitled to share the gender specific safe space ..that is a problem of discrimination not of insanity nor of brainwashing .
We are taking so many backwards steps in our recognition of gender identity because so much is being wrapped around and entwined on to this emotive issue. But it blurs the wood from the trees and it isn't really an overly complex issue ; if we recognise trans rights we have no problem because everyone in the female only safe spaces will be female. Everyone will be safe because everyone will be the same gender.

Everyone will be safe because everyone will be the same gender.

Tell that to Katie Dolatowski's victims.

so you know precisely what the characteristics of the gender shared by all women are?.

great, can you describe those characteristics please?

you've said this isn't complex so this should be easy for you to do

thank you

Calm down.
I am saying that a trans woman knows that she is female , that is the simplicity to which I refer . It is not for non trans any gender to prescribe exhaustively and simplistically what it means, for example, I was born a woman and therefore I know exclusively what a woman is.
And BTW, a sexual predator is a menace irrespective of their gender .
It's really not very long ago that gay men were consciously confused and linked with paedophilia.
Her trans status is not the issue, her offending is .

Obviously someone who is trans CAN be a sexual predator but this is not an issue of her gender...she identifies as female, she is female...it is not this that makes her dangerous but her predilection for offending.
No slam dunk I'm afraid, the issue is still being confused.

The problem is 'her penis'.

'calm down'

you know 'female' means being of the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs? of course you do. everyone does, even the people who pretend not to

if some men know they're female I can only assume they're having a psychotic break

anyhoo, you said it was simple, so it must be very simple for you to tell me the things that all women have in common. you did say I know exclusively what a woman is

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You can Nickyknakynoo off with your claims @Nickyknakynoo . Transwomen do not share a "gender" with me. Nor do they share the same female biology. It's that simple. They are male, born, and for always.

Hahaha Hahaha bahhahaha .
Brilliant 👏 thank you.
I'm actually a 60 year old retired woman who lives in Shropshire...been married twice, have children and step children , dogs, cats, chickens, my lovely mother lives with us ......I'm about as middle England / middle class as it gets....other than projectile vomiting at the sight of a Daily Mail or Telegraph of course.
Anyway, I wish I could say this has been fun but sadly not .
I wish you all goodnight and may peace, health and joy go with you .

I am saying that a trans woman knows that she is female

I'm saying he's wrong. I know what makes him male. What makes him female?

Oh dear god 😳

you alright lovey?

I mean not being able to answer fairly simple questions about your seriously held beliefs is not a great sign...

@Nickyknakynoo I genuinely have no idea what that "oh dear god" is in reference to? You seem appalled, can you explain why?

And I can understand why you are Fedupandstuck in the previous century . I'm afraid people like you leave me cold .
This whole thread is depressing and yet the real reason for all of the flapping is certainly being revealed now isn't it ..plain old bigotry

I really feel I must leave you all to clutch your pearls and twitch your Daily Mails .
I am a woman and you do not represent me .
Horrible.

too right

you've just revealed that you are such a bigot that the sight of newspapers that run articles you don't agree with makes you vomit

you do not represent me

@Nickyknakynoo If you do not support the idea that gender is not as simple as the biological parts you were born with and that as a consequence trans women are in fact women and entitled to share the gender specific safe space ..that is a problem of discrimination not of insanity nor of brainwashing .

Frankly, I don't care what gender is or isn't. You refer to "gender specific safe spaces", but this phrase is nonsense. What we had, until recently were "sex-specific spaces". Not gender, sex. And not defined as "safe", simply defined as single-sex. Though if you're wanting to use the term "safe", it's ridiculous to suggest that males can share women-only "safe" spaces and for those spaces to retain the same level of safety for the women already in them. By allowing males in, you put the women at risk. How do you not understand this? (And as an aside, how do you not understand that by allowing transwomen in, you allow all men in? - because superficially there is no difference, and we have no idea what goes on in someone else's head.)

Ageist and misogynist to boot.

What you don't realise is, since you seem to be a newcomer to the FWR board, is that plenty of people come here to "prove" to us how wrong we are, and they all end up throwing around insults instead of answering questions. They shout about how bigoted and narrow minded we are without spending any time to understand and discuss our position.

Nickyknakynoo · Today 21:19

I am saying that a trans woman knows that she is female

I'm saying that that is complete and utter bollocks. He knows perfectly well that he's a man.

Hahaha oh me oh my ....you lot are really something else although of course not in any way unusual unfortunately ....spouting well worn nasty , narrow nonsense.
For those of you quivering your bosoms in delight that I have not answered your questions....I already have and I'm sorry if you did not pick that up.
I'm really, really bored shitless now so I will wish you goodnight and I wish you completely straight family and friends...that would be a problem wouldn't it .
Oh and BTW, Bernard Black wouldn't give you his molluscs...GL would of course but not DM

I've read the books.

The nationality, races and skin colours are always mentioned for any character, no matter how minor, who isn't white English. It is clear from the books the "default" is white English for the characters because it's described for anyone who isn't. It would also feel very strange for one of the most prominent characters to have been black the entire time without it ever been mentioned.

Also a few quotes in the books and an early concept drawing by Rowling herself where the character is clearly white.

The "Dumbledore is gay" thing I can let slide (even though I don't think she thought of him as gay until after the books were finished) but I'm not buying her "I never mentioned Hermione's race so she may be black after all".

But remember this is all coming from the same author who, after the books were finished, said wizards in the HP universe don't need to use toilets. If they want to they just pee and poop themselves and "magic away the evidence". Yes, this is now actual canon.

Source- wizardingworld. An official HP website and twitter account.
x.com/wizardingworld/status/1081242428105998336

(Can someone who isn't blocked please drop her a little note asking her to stop adding in post-book canon facts)

I'm really, really bored shitless now

As my Gran used to say: Only boring people get bored.

if you can't answer it's OK to say so

I mean it makes you look a bit weird because you want me to change my views to align with opinions you can't actually explain. That would make me pause a bit. but yanno, you do you