Tommy Robinson and Let Women Speak

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I've only read about this on Twitter so there's a chance this is being taken out of context, but it looks like Let Women Speak were part of Tommy Robinson's rally in London this past weekend:

https://x.com/shularises/status/1797585248580186511

https://x.com/GappyTales/status/1797611080212205988

https://x.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1796931835823362392

This doesn't sit right with me at all. I've been to LWS events and thought I knew what they were about. I've argued against the guilt-by-association tactics that some activists use against LWS when male intruders have turned up to the events, like the neo-Nazis in Melbourne.

But here we see the opposite, LWS deliberately attending far-right fascist marches. This seems inexcusable to me.

Can anybody make a meme for "I see you're a fascist now JKR"? Asking for Cassie.

Turns out I shouldn't under estimate myself.

I missed that post.

@nauticant are you aware that KJK got an apology for the NZ neo-Nazi accusation:
https://www.johnpesutto.com.au/media-releases/2024-05-17-statement-from-the-leader-of-the-opposition
Your post might be considered libellous (it's lucky for many that KJK isn't generally litigious).

https://twitter.com/roseveniceallan/status/1798786697154715886?t=J06dZ3HkuAdEIy4QztppSQ&s=19
Look who I met up with! Happy to report she’s not giving up, not now, not ever 💪

Naut was being sarcastic.

💓💖💗 lovely xx

Love the facial expressions!

Oh phew, it's hard to tell sometimes. Sorry naut

It took me a moment too. I thought she'd been hacked.

They don't influence me in the slightest. I just find them an utter embarrassment to our country,

Yes dear, knowing what disgusting, arseholes they are is EXACTLY the same as popping on a black Fred Perry and cheering for hatred with all my gammony mates.

I also know who Donald Trump is. Should I get a MAGA hat?

Trying to play catch up, so this may be already explained but @CassieMaddox re Did the journalists present their reports wrapped in flags and going on about being proud of their country?

I am assuming you have a problem with Aja and her flags, but which flag was the problem? The image I saw she was holding both the Jamaican and British flags? Which country should she not be proud of?

I also know who Donald Trump is. Should I get a MAGA hat?

Sure! If you want to.

Fancy wasting your energy hating Tommy Robinson!

Never understand why are people are so happy to stand alongside people like Tommy Robinson on issues.
Before anyone comes at me with shit like "Hitler was a vegetarian, ergo we agree on some stuff!"
If you (general you) and the far right have the same opinion on a minority group and you're both actively at rallies for the same reason, or leaflets are being handed out at rallies I'm aligned with, if it was me personally that would make me think "hang on a minute...."

I believe it's only ok to be proud of the Jamaican flag.

It seems like people keep forgetting that these are not "feminist" leaflets that were being passed out. They were about the safety of children.

Do we really care about the politics of the people to whom we hand out leaflets about children's safety?

That seems, weird. Like, what other leaflets can't they have. Vaccination information? How to test for radon in the home?

Kellie Jay-Keen is regularly described as a nazi by the other side. They have it in their heads now that 'let women speak' is a nazi movement. KJK has said things which at best you could describe as careless and flippant but at worst do actually make her look like a nazi. Key example that springs to mind is footage of her saying ''Facism is the new word for legend''. It makes me hesitant to attend one of her events which is a shame because I agree with 85% of what she says.

It's ironic because ''you must accept that trans-woman are literally woman otherwise you are a bigot that will be destroyed'' feels very fascistic to me.

@CassieMaddox

Giving leaflets to Tommy Robinson supporters isn't changing anyone's minds is it? The far right don't tend to be advocates of the LGBTQ+ movement.

It's more like preaching to the converted.

Absolutely, Cassie. It was a dog whistle. Looking at the wording - 'IS YOUR CHILD BEING GROOMED INTO A CULT?' - that is guaranteed to create anger and outrage in minds that are already roused because they are at a far-right march. It's feeding into a frenzy.

I think you missed the point rather.

But it is fine. Because now you don't have to have even listened to them, because we are onto dog whistles. Next it will be smoke signals.

@Hepwo

The group of women that have a vendetta against KJK regularly use this board, as now, to roll out their latest spat. OP dumped Ali Ceasay's tweets and didn't come back. Other likely group members have joined in. This is the usual way this plays out and has done for a few years now. Most of us have seen it repeatedly. I haven't seen anyone expressing hatred for them, I pity them more than anything because they are unable to control themselves even as they make themselves into fools.

Just because there are some people that don't hold the same views as you doesn't automatically make them 'SocFems'. It also doesn't make them fools.

So what we know is that a black lesbian, draped in a Jamaican flag, attended a legal march in London that was apparently full of rabid racists and was not harassed, attacked, or in any way 'unsafe' and instead of thinking 'gosh, those racists aren't racisting properly, maybe they aren't as racist as we thought' we get the 'black lesbian isn't feministing properly' and she needs casting out?

What's wrong with wearing Fred Perry?

Nothing in and of itself. However after originally being popular in the Ska scene it went out to be popular in the racist skin head scene. They've moved on since. It's interesting to actually look at the history of the popularity of the brand.
But this things move on and nobody thinks you're a member of the BNP if you wear cherry red DMs anymore for instance.