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Tommy Robinson and Let Women Speak

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eatfigs · 04/06/2024 11:40

I've only read about this on Twitter so there's a chance this is being taken out of context, but it looks like Let Women Speak were part of Tommy Robinson's rally in London this past weekend:

https://x.com/shularises/status/1797585248580186511

https://x.com/GappyTales/status/1797611080212205988

https://x.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1796931835823362392

This doesn't sit right with me at all. I've been to LWS events and thought I knew what they were about. I've argued against the guilt-by-association tactics that some activists use against LWS when male intruders have turned up to the events, like the neo-Nazis in Melbourne.

But here we see the opposite, LWS deliberately attending far-right fascist marches. This seems inexcusable to me.

x.com

https://x.com/shularises/status/1797585248580186511

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TinselAngel · 06/06/2024 19:55

Giving leaflets to Tommy Robinson supporters isn't changing anyone's minds is it? The far right don't tend to be advocates of the LGBTQ+ movement.
Yes but even Fascists love their children and want them to be safeguarded.

Garlicker · 06/06/2024 20:21

I've just gone to the trouble of logging into TwitX so I could read the tweets. Waded through Andy Ngo's thread of Trump-tastic jingoism, then realised the point of Lily Maynard's tweet: Standing For Women leaflets on Primark's rainbow stand CLEARLY demonstrate Kellie-Jay's support of Stonewall, while also providing evidence that she uses enslaved Chinese workers to produce short-life clothing 😂

Is there no end to the woman's evil associations?!

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FlirtsWithRhinos · 06/06/2024 20:28

BionicBadger · 06/06/2024 18:57

The thing that leaps out of this thread is Cassie’s hatred of the women and her absolute fury that they don’t fall in with her views, therefore they must be publicly vilified. Sickening really.

That is not what I'm taking from Cassie's posts at all.

CassieMaddox · 06/06/2024 20:41

Boiledbeetle · 06/06/2024 19:29

Two tier policing can happen in many forms

If you've ever watched a LWS event you'll have seen two tier policing in action. Think of the shit the TRAs get away with and then compare to how quickly women have been arrested for stickering and tying ribbons.

The police embracing of identity politics had led to two tier policing, think how TRAs are treated and think how gender critical women are treated by the police.

OK.
Or it could be that stickering in some circumstances is criminal damage, therefore a crime, but a counter protest while unpleasant isn't illegal.

CassieMaddox · 06/06/2024 20:42

FlirtsWithRhinos · 06/06/2024 20:28

That is not what I'm taking from Cassie's posts at all.

Thank you Flowers

CassieMaddox · 06/06/2024 20:42

Also - the police "embracing identity politics"? Don't make me laugh.

CassieMaddox · 06/06/2024 20:44

Boiledbeetle · 06/06/2024 19:32

How do you know? It might change someone's mind.it might be that final little thing that makes someone go I've had enough of this shit i don't agree with it any more. Or that Leaflet might make someone go and look further and be educated by what they find.

Pardon?
Do you really think the far right need their minds changing? They definitely know what a woman is. And not in a good way.

CassieMaddox · 06/06/2024 20:46

Hepwo · 06/06/2024 19:37

Tolerating the far right is a bad idea. Unfortunately the love of KJK and hate of "SocFems" seems to have clouded some peoples ability to recognise extremists when they see them.

This is all invented.

The group of women that have a vendetta against KJK regularly use this board, as now, to roll out their latest spat. OP dumped Ali Ceasay's tweets and didn't come back. Other likely group members have joined in. This is the usual way this plays out and has done for a few years now. Most of us have seen it repeatedly. I haven't seen anyone expressing hatred for them, I pity them more than anything because they are unable to control themselves even as they make themselves into fools.

We can recognise extremists. The fact that we aren't doing Ali Ceasay's bidding on this thread is because it's we don't want to do her bidding. We don't need to. The catastrophising about far right infiltration is her usual modus operandi and her daft friends. It's hard to take it seriously at all.

Whatever Aja's motivation for going is she's a far lovelier person that Ali Ceasay and her nest of wasps so at a personal level I'm not going to validate their nastiness towards anyone, and on a more strategic goal orientated level, the claims of corrupting everything are absolutely feeble and stupid and have been going on for a long time now. Its interesting watching how this does wind people up, and how much shouting into a vacuum they will do once they get going, and how the failure to get the rewards of a denouncing triggers such escalation.

😂
OK

eatfigs · 06/06/2024 20:48

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^ This comment is from a TRA coming into the thread to stir things up. Twitter screenshot attached, note the background colour of the post.

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eatfigs · 06/06/2024 20:49

To be honest I regret starting this thread. I'm sorry everyone.

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Boiledbeetle · 06/06/2024 20:50

Some people have their heads shoved so far up their arses on this thread they can see their tonsils!

CassieMaddox · 06/06/2024 20:53

LarkLane · 06/06/2024 19:41

Well now, nobody mentioned that there was a counterprotest going on. I suppose it doesn't fit the hate the dissident lesbians narrative.

According to Searchlight, https://www.searchlightmagazine.com/2024/06/tommy-spreads-his-anti-muslim-rot-at-westminster/
The fact that the counter protest, called by Stand Up To Racism and supported by many other groups and trade unions, some of which spoke in Whitehall, was unable to mobilise really significant numbers should be of concern.
There had been very strict conditions laid down by the police ahead of the march, dictating that any counter-protest had to be static. Barriers were in place, with police blocking anyone from entering Whitehall from Parliament Square or vice versa. Anyone entering Whitehall from Trafalgar Square had to pass through a police cordon and state if they were attending one of demonstrations – to be directed on the route to take depending on which demo.

Well that article is interesting about the nature of his rally. Here's the info about the counter protest:

The fact that the counter protest, called by Stand Up To Racism and supported by many other groups and trade unions, some of which spoke in Whitehall, was unable to mobilise really significant numbers should be of concern.

It seems unlikely thats why LWS were at the rally given their feelings on unions, but I'll look forward to Lippy and Aja posting their support of this movement and evidence that's what they were doing there. As opposed to "speculation" with no evidence whatsoever.

TinselAngel · 06/06/2024 20:57

eatfigs · 06/06/2024 20:49

To be honest I regret starting this thread. I'm sorry everyone.

It's OK. We all make mistakes.

LarkLane · 06/06/2024 21:03

eatfigs · 06/06/2024 20:49

To be honest I regret starting this thread. I'm sorry everyone.

Ah well. I was wondering why you'd stopped contributing to your own thread.
Takes guts to come back and say that.

We promise not to hound you around the internet for your fig affinity even though TR also eats figs which makes you fig adjacent.
<taps nose>

EasternStandard · 06/06/2024 21:03

eatfigs · 06/06/2024 20:49

To be honest I regret starting this thread. I'm sorry everyone.

Don’t worry. Thanks for saying that

RufustheFactualReindeer · 06/06/2024 21:12

eatfigs · 06/06/2024 20:49

To be honest I regret starting this thread. I'm sorry everyone.

Its not your fault in the slightest 💐

Hepwo · 06/06/2024 21:12

eatfigs · 06/06/2024 20:49

To be honest I regret starting this thread. I'm sorry everyone.

The only person they have really used in their pathetic wind up is Maddox and that takes zero effort.

RufustheFactualReindeer · 06/06/2024 21:13

Well it is your fault…but you know what i mean

you didnt expect it to go like this

TinselAngel · 06/06/2024 21:13

I once found a round, black wizened something that I thought must be a dried up fig under DD's bed, which confused me because I didn't remember buying figs since I've lived in this house let alone DD eating them. I eventually worked out that it was a mummified Christmas stocking satsuma.

mrshoho · 06/06/2024 21:31

CassieMaddox · 06/06/2024 20:53

Well that article is interesting about the nature of his rally. Here's the info about the counter protest:

The fact that the counter protest, called by Stand Up To Racism and supported by many other groups and trade unions, some of which spoke in Whitehall, was unable to mobilise really significant numbers should be of concern.

It seems unlikely thats why LWS were at the rally given their feelings on unions, but I'll look forward to Lippy and Aja posting their support of this movement and evidence that's what they were doing there. As opposed to "speculation" with no evidence whatsoever.

You have been speculating all over through this thread!

LarkLane · 06/06/2024 21:34

A tenner on Cassie not having been told directly by A and L what their views are on trades unions.
More speculation.

ChewtonRoad · 06/06/2024 22:06

Cassie said "Legal" doesn't mean acceptable though. Far right marches are not acceptable.

I disagree. No matter how distasteful some views are - and the views of TR and his thugs are abhorrent to me - they must be allowed to state them. Not allowing this is the thin edge of the wedge towards compelled speech/thought and sticking one's head in the sand because the other side's views are so dire they give one the vapours.

Nope.

TR is a miserable excuse of a man, but if he can't state the shite he believes in then my equal right to say you're talking out of your arse, mate, because A, B, and C may not be allowed. I'm not interested in that happening.

TinselAngel · 06/06/2024 22:12

Nice to see JKR supporting Aja

x.com/jk_rowling/status/1798818643629006908?s=46&t=PSGltfjrMyZmBtYq2-AVIQ

CassieMaddox · 06/06/2024 22:24

ChewtonRoad · 06/06/2024 22:06

Cassie said "Legal" doesn't mean acceptable though. Far right marches are not acceptable.

I disagree. No matter how distasteful some views are - and the views of TR and his thugs are abhorrent to me - they must be allowed to state them. Not allowing this is the thin edge of the wedge towards compelled speech/thought and sticking one's head in the sand because the other side's views are so dire they give one the vapours.

Nope.

TR is a miserable excuse of a man, but if he can't state the shite he believes in then my equal right to say you're talking out of your arse, mate, because A, B, and C may not be allowed. I'm not interested in that happening.

He can state them but preferably to thin air rather than rallies full of people including feminists

User2460177 · 06/06/2024 22:28

nauticant · 04/06/2024 13:07

KJK was supporting neo-Nazis in New Zealand. The other day she was supporting Trump. Now she's supporting Tommy Robinson.

Is this a direction of travel of her becoming kinder?

This is a direct lie.

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