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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Another GC employment tribunal. Roz Adams vs Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre #2

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nauticant · 19/01/2024 12:59

Claiming constructive dismissal for GC beliefs.

ERCC CEO is a well known transwoman know for controversial "reframe your trauma" remarks.

There was live tweeting from twitter.com/tribunaltweets or if Twitter doesn't show the tweets, look at https://nitter.net/tribunaltweets

Abbreviations:
J: Employment Judge McFatridge
RA: Roz Adams, the claimant
NC: Naomi Cunningham, barrister for the claimant
R or ERCC: the Respondent, Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre
DH: David Hay KC, barrister for the respondent
KM: Katy McTernan, ERCC Senior management
MR: Mairi Rosko, ERCC Board Member
MS: Miren Sagues, ERCC Board Member
KH: Katie Horburgh, ERCC Board Member
AB: ERCC staff member (name redacted)
NCi: Nico Ciubotariu, COO of ERCC
MW: Mridul Wadhwa, CEO of ERCC
BP: Beira's Place

Witnesses:
Nicole Jones (NJ): 18 January 2024
Mairi Rosko (MR): 19 January 2024
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Thread #1: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4985570-another-gc-employment-tribunal-adams-vs-edinburgh-rape-crsis

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nauticant · 22/01/2024 12:03

It looks like it was the Tribunal Tweets error that caused the closed proceedings. The panel seem to be treating the matter seriously but also sensibly.

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ADoggyDogWorld · 22/01/2024 12:04

Thumbs up. If you wims would be so kind as to do a little bit of running commentary I'd be v grateful, please and thank you.

Justabaker · 22/01/2024 12:04

Permission to live tweet is still in place.

WallaceinAnderland · 22/01/2024 12:04

We're in. TT allowed to continue. Open justice important.

SelfPortraitWithHagstone · 22/01/2024 12:04

X-posted, obvs...

Caught him saying that the important thing was how (inevitable) errors were dealt with, so TT did well handling it the way they did.

Mmmnotsure · 22/01/2024 12:05

Judge saying mistakes happen, but how it's dealt with matters. TT issued apology etc v quickly so okay to keep going.

nauticant · 22/01/2024 12:05

Another witness for ERCC: Katy McTernan (KM), ERCC senior management, head of services, in place 3 years 3 months. A background in volunteering.

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SelfPortraitWithHagstone · 22/01/2024 12:06

Apparently Monday is bell-ringing day in Edinburgh...😂

Boiledbeetle · 22/01/2024 12:06

Well at least the cleaning cloths are paired!

On with listening to the case now

Another GC employment tribunal. Roz Adams vs Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre #2
MuchasSmoochas · 22/01/2024 12:06

I can hear but I can’t see?

LoobiJee · 22/01/2024 12:07

pronounsbundlebundle · 22/01/2024 10:26

I've got to be honest, I find it vanishingly unlikely that one could know about the case but not remember Maya's name given that it's literally referred to as the Forstater case every time it's discussed. But maybe that's just me.

Or that anyone preparing to be a witness at an ET on pretty much the same topic wouldn’t have come across the name during the preparations with the legal team.

LipbalmOrKnickers · 22/01/2024 12:08

Me either Muchas. Might drop out and back in, although tbh it's the size of a postage stamp again anyway.

nauticant · 22/01/2024 12:09

KM being clear about not interacting with service users in a counselling role. But MW has a small caseload and does one-to-one support.

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Boiledbeetle · 22/01/2024 12:09

MuchasSmoochas · 22/01/2024 12:06

I can hear but I can’t see?

You aren't missing much they are just sat at various desks with microphones in front of them and Naomi is typing loudly.

Appalonia · 22/01/2024 12:09

It's tiny on my screen, anyone know how you make it bigger?

Mmmnotsure · 22/01/2024 12:10

KT is not typically a front-facing member of staff. Reports to MW.

DH: What service user contact would MW have?

KT: involved if crisis. Carries a small case load, so may have 1-1 support.

Appalonia · 22/01/2024 12:12

This witness seems reasonable...so far.

Boiledbeetle · 22/01/2024 12:12

Discussing the care available I think at the moment

Mmmnotsure · 22/01/2024 12:13

KT we had long waiting lists. Some people waiting six months for short support.

KT: waiting list for longer support was over a year.

Poinsettiasarevile · 22/01/2024 12:13

I am still wftchtj

ickky · 22/01/2024 12:14

Mmmnotsure · 22/01/2024 12:13

KT we had long waiting lists. Some people waiting six months for short support.

KT: waiting list for longer support was over a year.

It is shocking and pretty pointless to wait so long for any support.

bumbledenbarsk · 22/01/2024 12:14

So, heavily over subscribed. Beggars belief they were not referring on to Beira's Place (as disclosed by previous witness last week).

Boiledbeetle · 22/01/2024 12:15

if she's being muddled when being questioned by her side she's going to fall apart when NC starts.

Mmmnotsure · 22/01/2024 12:16

KT completely can't remember when opened up to new referrals.

Boiledbeetle · 22/01/2024 12:16

Poinsettiasarevile · 22/01/2024 12:13

I am still wftchtj

There is still two waiting in the lobby

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