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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Another GC employment tribunal. Adam's vs Edinburgh Rape Crsis

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Rainbowshit · 15/01/2024 10:04

x.com/tribunaltweets/status/1746830866020442400?s=46&t=AjtjSItRj-kgZwRzL-pdyQ

Claiming constructive dismissal for GC beliefs.

ERC CEO is a well known transwoman know for controversial "reframe your trauma" remarks.

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Karensalright · 19/01/2024 08:57

@Justabaker me

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 19/01/2024 08:58

Rainbowshit · 18/01/2024 22:58

I wonder if Sandy Brindley and Maggie Chapman and any other woman who had any hand in bringing Mridul on board is feeling any kind of regret or discomfort at the appointment yet or if they ever will?

No. They are the Righteous.

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 19/01/2024 08:59

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 19/01/2024 08:58

No. They are the Righteous.

Actually - other women might. But not those two.

RethinkingLife · 19/01/2024 09:00

pronounsbundlebundle · 19/01/2024 08:31

Sex-based pronouns for all is the only GDPR compliant option!

Are you making a distinction between sex-based and preference here?

Sex as mandated (GDPR and EqA 2010) and nobody is supposed to be handling preferred?

SenseFromThoughtDivide · 19/01/2024 09:02

That event at the bookshop. What does "inclusion is beautiful but including is ugly" even mean?

I thought it was the difference between stating up front that this organisation will be inclusive of these groups

and

deciding (apparently reluctantly) that we will allow this group to join, which makes it sound like being chosen last for Rounders

HoneyButterPopcorn · 19/01/2024 09:03

I think it means the ‘included’ are beautiful and women are ugly.

Froodwithatowel · 19/01/2024 09:05

SenseFromThoughtDivide · 19/01/2024 09:02

That event at the bookshop. What does "inclusion is beautiful but including is ugly" even mean?

I thought it was the difference between stating up front that this organisation will be inclusive of these groups

and

deciding (apparently reluctantly) that we will allow this group to join, which makes it sound like being chosen last for Rounders

Or possibly as we've heard before, (said to women without awareness of irony and sheer lack of self awareness) 'sometimes to include you have to exclude'

I wonder if it means the end result is beautiful (for men) but the actual getting rid of people and creating a pure, righteous environment is ugly.

But then look at us. It's like the whole 'you're denying I exist' stuff. Doesn't it always work like a charm? We all spend hours and hours providing head space and trying to work out wtaf it all meant, and that in itself serves the agenda. Focus, attention, uncertainty, time and head space provided, good faith that it does actually have an intended meaning, and that it serves a purpose other than controlling the agenda and hiding coercive bollocks under nice sounding pseudo EDI speak figleaves.

Chumplady would be shaking her head. And Lundy Bancroft.

HoneyButterPopcorn · 19/01/2024 09:08

Maybe women just need to start using the same language.

They are denying our existence! Genociding us! most marginalised…

pickledandpuzzled · 19/01/2024 09:12

@Rainbowshit is there any chance you could do a bit of a summary of what’s gone on, at intervals ? I can’t follow throughout the day and come home to 15 pages to read. I would love to know how it’s going though!

It’s a big ask, but If anyone but you does it, I won’t be able to find the update posts.

Unless there’s another answer?

Rainbowshit · 19/01/2024 09:31

pickledandpuzzled · 19/01/2024 09:12

@Rainbowshit is there any chance you could do a bit of a summary of what’s gone on, at intervals ? I can’t follow throughout the day and come home to 15 pages to read. I would love to know how it’s going though!

It’s a big ask, but If anyone but you does it, I won’t be able to find the update posts.

Unless there’s another answer?

As much as I would love to I am working today. Maybe someone else on the thread could?

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 19/01/2024 09:35

I know we have looked at them in earlier threads but here is the Companies House entry for ERCC.

find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/SC291742/filing-history

Boiledbeetle · 19/01/2024 09:38

pickledandpuzzled · 19/01/2024 09:12

@Rainbowshit is there any chance you could do a bit of a summary of what’s gone on, at intervals ? I can’t follow throughout the day and come home to 15 pages to read. I would love to know how it’s going though!

It’s a big ask, but If anyone but you does it, I won’t be able to find the update posts.

Unless there’s another answer?

Tribunal Tweets have been covering it.

https://tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/adams-vs-edinburgh-rape-crisis-centre

It's still a bit of reading to do, but at least you can catch up on the tribunal rather than having to suffer our waffling and exclamations of WTF!!

Adams vs Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre

R Adams, the Claimant, was employed by Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre (ERCC) (Respondent) as a counsellor. The Claimant does not subscribe to gender identity theory. She believes that biological sex is real, important, immutable and not to be conflated w...

https://tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/adams-vs-edinburgh-rape-crisis-centre

Treaclewell · 19/01/2024 09:44

It seems to m that there is an argument for fraud on the part of ERCC. Accpting public money which is probably allocated on the understanding that most victims of rape are female (there is a government graph to that effect) and then setting up criteria for access to the service which excludes a lot of the females who need it. And making it look as if they've self excluded.
(I've an earworm of Springtime for Hitler.)(and an attempt at parody.)(Exploitative of women, but at least it made them happy.)

nauticant · 19/01/2024 09:46

SenseFromThoughtDivide · 19/01/2024 09:02

That event at the bookshop. What does "inclusion is beautiful but including is ugly" even mean?

I thought it was the difference between stating up front that this organisation will be inclusive of these groups

and

deciding (apparently reluctantly) that we will allow this group to join, which makes it sound like being chosen last for Rounders

I'd say it's more along the lines of you can't make an omelette without breaking eggs.

Karensalright · 19/01/2024 09:50

@Ereshkigalangcleg gonna access charity SORP accounts and do a spot of forensic analysis

Clabony · 19/01/2024 09:52

That Inclusion bullshit waffle reminds me of the lyrics to I am a Walrus.

CriticalCondition · 19/01/2024 10:02

I've been trying to get in to the hearing over the last couple of days but can't get past the 'we can't access your microphone/webcam - please ensure not in use by another process ' message. I've rebooted several times, been in touch with the helpline who were lovely but no real advice apart from turn it off and on again. At their suggestion I cleared cookies and still no joy. I'm using Chrome on my laptop. Can't use my phone for this.

I've watched several hearings before using the link and PIN with no trouble. Has anyone else had this problem and got past it?

nauticant · 19/01/2024 10:05

I had the problem just now but in my case switching from Firefox to Chrome got me past the problem. Could you try another browser?

LipbalmOrKnickers · 19/01/2024 10:05

I did, I'm on a Mac and shutting down all processes an rebooting sorted it. Have you tried using a different browser?

nauticant · 19/01/2024 10:08

Now I need to get past WFTCHTJ.

CriticalCondition · 19/01/2024 10:10

Thanks, will give it a go.

LipbalmOrKnickers · 19/01/2024 10:11

Still WFTCHTJ here.

Boiledbeetle · 19/01/2024 10:14

LipbalmOrKnickers · 19/01/2024 10:11

Still WFTCHTJ here.

Ditto! It's at this point you begin to debate whether to wait it out of try reconnecting in case you are stuck in a loop and missing stuff!!

nauticant · 19/01/2024 10:15

Before doing that I check to see what's being reported by @tribunaltweets.

nauticant · 19/01/2024 10:16

It looks like the witnesses coming up will be for ERCC. That should make for fascinating viewing.

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