Hey! We're just "non-trans women" now"!

HootyMcBooby76 · 2023-08-29T15:24:22+00:00

So I've seen a quite a few numbers of social media videos now, where the increasing trend in the ideology is to describe women (the original type) as "non-trans women". So, not women. Not even "biological women". Not even the revolting "cis" women. We are now "non-trans women". Talk about linguistic gymnastics! SO...trans women are actually women, but WE are "non-trans" women. Ok, gotcha. Women are now defined by what they are NOT (ie, men). My two girls are at an age where they are applying for their first jobs for a bit of extra cash while they study. The remarkable array of choices now that exist for the old "sex" category (instead of the traditional and REALISTIC two) are astounding. I think I counted seven on one form. I'm not sure how I feel about my new status as a "non-trans|" woman? Oh actually I do. Fuck right off.

Dramatico · 29/08/2023 16:29

Yep. And our vaginas are now to be called 'front holes'. The word vagina should only be used for transwomen, apparently.

IcakethereforeIam · 29/08/2023 16:29

As tw have tried to colonise women and female, presumably they'll be coming for this too. And then we'll be.....?

PriOn1 · 29/08/2023 16:29

The remarkable array of choices now that exist for the old "sex" category (instead of the traditional and REALISTIC two) are astounding. I think I counted seven on one form.

Maybe the employers are trying to weed out the awkward buggers?

BCBird · 29/08/2023 16:33

This is getting absolutely ridiculous. Sick of this nonsense.

PosiePerkinPootleFlump · 29/08/2023 16:35

Intriguing. I'm also a non-cat. And a non-dog. And a non-Christian. And a non-Buddhist. And a non-tiddlywinks-player....

thatsn0tmyname · 29/08/2023 16:38

I thought a bagina was called a bonus hole🤮

thatsn0tmyname · 29/08/2023 16:38

Vagina!

FroodwithaKaren · 29/08/2023 16:49

And at this point I move from TW to an acronym I can be prevented from saying on MN, but not anywhere else.

Give an inch, yada yada. There's no good will or mutual respect, the time is long over to stop playing these games.

DialSquare · 29/08/2023 16:50

thatsn0tmyname · 29/08/2023 16:38

I thought a bagina was called a bonus hole🤮

Sounds quite handy. Can you carry things in it?

HarrietJet · 29/08/2023 16:50

If ever there was proof that trans women are men, this is it 🙄

RocketPanda · 29/08/2023 16:52

Men as the default always.

Sick of this shit.

DadJoke · 29/08/2023 16:54

In the context of transgender rights, we need language to refer to people who are not transgender. Most GC people strenuously object to cisgender. The only other term which works in this specific context is non-transgender, or non-trans. This is a perfectly reasonable effort to accomodate your ideology.

You don't even have to acknowledge that trans women are women to acknowledge they are transgender, and you most like are not. So, saying that you are a non-transgender woman, doesn't even conceed that transgender woman are in fact women, merely transgender people.

As you clearly object, what other adjective would you like to use to refer to people who are not transgender?

Acornsoup · 29/08/2023 16:57

Hang on a minute but I specifically object to non-trans and non-transgender to describe myself. We have nothing left do we 😞

HarrietJet · 29/08/2023 16:58

In the context of transgender rights, we need language to refer to people who are not transgender
No, dear. We really do not.

Not being transgender is the default. HTH.

Wiccan · 29/08/2023 16:59

HarrietJet · 29/08/2023 16:50

If ever there was proof that trans women are men, this is it 🙄

Abso fucking lutely ! It's all women hating hidden under very tacky cheap glittery dresses and nasty stilettos. Come on guys biological real women don't dress like that , we don't need to we are the authentic real deal !

Dramatico · 29/08/2023 16:59

DadJoke · 29/08/2023 16:54

In the context of transgender rights, we need language to refer to people who are not transgender. Most GC people strenuously object to cisgender. The only other term which works in this specific context is non-transgender, or non-trans. This is a perfectly reasonable effort to accomodate your ideology.

You don't even have to acknowledge that trans women are women to acknowledge they are transgender, and you most like are not. So, saying that you are a non-transgender woman, doesn't even conceed that transgender woman are in fact women, merely transgender people.

As you clearly object, what other adjective would you like to use to refer to people who are not transgender?

How about just referring to people by their correct biological sex.

How about not attempting to impose newspeak by diktat.

It won't work.

HarrietJet · 29/08/2023 16:59

As you clearly object, what other adjective would you like to use to refer to people who are not transgender?
Men and women will do nicely. If it ain't broke, don't try to fix it.

SinnerBoy · 29/08/2023 16:59

DadJoke · Today 16:54

In the context of transgender rights, we need language to refer to people who are not transgender. Most GC people strenuously object to cisgender. The only other term which works in this specific context is non-transgender, or non-trans.

There's already a perfectly apposite word, which has existed for hundreds of years, so there's no need to do linguistic gymnastics.

It's "Women."

There, fixed it for you.

Abra1t · 29/08/2023 17:00

thatsn0tmyname · 29/08/2023 16:38

I thought a bagina was called a bonus hole🤮

I’m officially claiming bagina as the (biological) female body part. It’s ours now.

Wiccan · 29/08/2023 17:02

WOMEN / GIRLS . Yep been ok up to now . 👍

Illegallyblonder · 29/08/2023 17:02

I'm so sick of this bullshit.

Original poster

HootyMcBooby76 · 29/08/2023 17:03

DadJoke · 29/08/2023 16:54

In the context of transgender rights, we need language to refer to people who are not transgender. Most GC people strenuously object to cisgender. The only other term which works in this specific context is non-transgender, or non-trans. This is a perfectly reasonable effort to accomodate your ideology.

You don't even have to acknowledge that trans women are women to acknowledge they are transgender, and you most like are not. So, saying that you are a non-transgender woman, doesn't even conceed that transgender woman are in fact women, merely transgender people.

As you clearly object, what other adjective would you like to use to refer to people who are not transgender?

Men or women.
Simple.

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CaramelMac · 29/08/2023 17:03

Not only am I “non-trans” I’m also “non-train driver”, “non-diabetic”, “non-short”, “non-blue or green eyed” and the list goes on…

Acornsoup · 29/08/2023 17:04

A descriptor should def describe what you are, not what you aren't.

Transparent2 · 29/08/2023 17:06

I don't think I need an adjective to describe people who are "not transgender". That would just cement 'transgender' as the most (or only) important characteristic for any person. Being transgender is only really important for the person who thinks it is important, the person whose identity is defined by 'gender'. A "not transgender" person is not defined by 'gender identity' so why would they need an adjective to describe themselves beyond the appropriate noun, woman or man?