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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Entitled male refused access to female changing area (despite wearing skirt)

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ACatCalledPushka · 23/07/2023 22:00

Well done to the hotel staff. ‘trans ‘woman’ given key to the unisex changing room instead of the female changing room ‘trans woman’ not happy.

https://twitter.com/anneicoombes/status/1683090524641566721?s=46&t=5tHsrgY5T97exTqeFD4LWg

https://twitter.com/anneicoombes/status/1683090524641566721?s=46&t=5tHsrgY5T97exTqeFD4LWg

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Somanyquestionstoaskaboutthis · 31/07/2023 15:34

You would think working in IT he would have more internet sense, but I guess he doesn’t care

MavisMcMinty · 31/07/2023 15:50

Until now, Anne has probably been told “how stunningly brave and inspirational” Anne is. Anne wasn’t expecting any backlash. Anne probably has no idea that people like Anne are peaking people all over the shop.

Clymene · 31/07/2023 15:53

I hadn't even clocked that @DaisyThistle - good spot. It does say an awful lot. I don't think I've ever heard anyone construct a sentence like that before.

Chersfrozenface · 31/07/2023 15:55

Datun · 31/07/2023 15:24

The problem is we are all so heavily censored or deleted if we do say what we all know.

fortunately a lot of these men don't seem to have the sense they were born with, and are perfectly happy for their proclivities to be splashed across the Internet from one end to the other.

Isn't this because they live in a sex-positive, no-boundaries, Queer Theory bubble so don't see how any of their proclivities could be in any way wrong and don't think for a moment that there is any need to be quiet about them?

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 31/07/2023 16:03

This is a bit like the Farage/Nat West thing, isn't it? Anne and Nat West think that they are in the right, they can do what they like and everyone will meekly accept it. Except they don't and it snowballs completely out of their control and just gets bigger and bigger. Talk about the law of unintended consequences.

BezMills · 31/07/2023 16:06

Is it also known as the Christ Anne (Streissand) effect?

Boiledbeetle · 31/07/2023 16:12

I do wonder if usually the content AC puts on line either only gets positive comments from within the community, or gets ignored (there were a lot of tweets with no traction at all). Therefore maybe that equates in some people's minds to people not actively disagreeing with AC 's behaviour being equal to a green light to carry on.

Then suddenly you send a tweet that's seen by over 4 million people and the nice cosy internet that either agreed with AC or ignored AC is suddenly this onslaught of what people actually think about the way AC conducts ACself in public and how AC's behaviour has been put up with until now through people being too scared to say anything.

God that's tortuous. The sooner we can write and say things properly the better.

Boiledbeetle · 31/07/2023 16:14

I lost a bit somewhere.

I imagine AC isn't haven't a good time this week. ACs little fantasy bubble has well and truly popped

MavisMcMinty · 31/07/2023 16:15

#ThoughtsAndPrayers

Boiledbeetle · 31/07/2023 16:16

MavisMcMinty · 31/07/2023 16:15

#ThoughtsAndPrayers

😁

GailBlancheViola · 31/07/2023 16:29

How very unusual Motorina.... And again, we seem to have NO posters on this thread who are supporting this male individual. Where have they all gone?

It is almost like this is just another of the quickly mounting examples of how very male behaviour remains with these male individuals who have trans identities..... Remarkable once you remove the blinkers of 'be kind' that you see things all too clearly that even the most ardent supporters cannot even summon a shaming post for discussing it....

Yes were are those who claim to be happy to use any space with a TW, they just want to pee/get changed, they are so vulnerable and oppressed, they go through so much, they are no threat, stop being horrible bigots posters? Don't see them for dust on any thread that evidences anything detrimental to their sacred caste.

DeanElderberry · 31/07/2023 16:45

I fear it's actually just ageism raising its ugly head. Anne is too old for the usual defenders to see Anne as human - ironic - Anne has older woman invisibility as far as the cool kids are concerned.

SerafinasGoose · 31/07/2023 16:50

DerekFaker · 31/07/2023 14:16

And yet again, history (the right side) shows how the ones pushing hardest for unfettered access to women's and girls' spaces are the ones who have the least business anywhere near them.

QED.

BonfireLady · 31/07/2023 16:53

DerekFaker · 31/07/2023 14:16

From further down in that tweet...

I'm a newbie to Twitter (as of this morning) so I have no idea if I'm mistaken or what I could do about it if I'm not... But there is a glaringly obvious omission here: why isn't someone linking in Sharron Davies?

She had already commented on the hotel story before this news broke. I'm sure she'd have plenty to say on the British Swimming Championships/Reading Swim Club changing room issue.

#supportMyra

Entitled male refused access to female changing area (despite wearing skirt)
SerafinasGoose · 31/07/2023 17:06

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 31/07/2023 16:03

This is a bit like the Farage/Nat West thing, isn't it? Anne and Nat West think that they are in the right, they can do what they like and everyone will meekly accept it. Except they don't and it snowballs completely out of their control and just gets bigger and bigger. Talk about the law of unintended consequences.

Delicious, isn't it?

Those grenades this bullying, misogynisitc movement keeps lobbing at women and girls are finally starting to go off in the faces of the throwers instead.

Makes a change from the past decade of hitting precisely their intended targets.

Not ashamed in the slightest to be revelling in schadenfraude.

Hepwo · 31/07/2023 17:33

https://twitter.com/moira_robin/status/1685744318198501376

What is White like? Having an argument over the use of wandering around versus cut through.

https://twitter.com/moira_robin/status/1685744318198501376

Datun · 31/07/2023 17:33

Chersfrozenface · 31/07/2023 15:55

Isn't this because they live in a sex-positive, no-boundaries, Queer Theory bubble so don't see how any of their proclivities could be in any way wrong and don't think for a moment that there is any need to be quiet about them?

Yes, I'm not sure that's what Anne would call it 😆. but would still be thoroughly enjoying the entire judgement free 'safe space'.

That's until, of course, they got on their high bloody horse and acted outraged because they couldn't swan in and out of the teen girls' changing room.

it really does highlight the entitlement. How arrogant do you have to be to think that anyone would find that the slightest bit acceptable!!

I honestly think that some of these people's brains have literally been addled.

no normal thinking person would imagine that this is acceptable behaviour.

Boiledbeetle · 31/07/2023 17:36

Hepwo · 31/07/2023 17:33

https://twitter.com/moira_robin/status/1685744318198501376

What is White like? Having an argument over the use of wandering around versus cut through.

Sits on hands.

ApocalipstickNow · 31/07/2023 17:39

GailBlancheViola · 31/07/2023 16:29

How very unusual Motorina.... And again, we seem to have NO posters on this thread who are supporting this male individual. Where have they all gone?

It is almost like this is just another of the quickly mounting examples of how very male behaviour remains with these male individuals who have trans identities..... Remarkable once you remove the blinkers of 'be kind' that you see things all too clearly that even the most ardent supporters cannot even summon a shaming post for discussing it....

Yes were are those who claim to be happy to use any space with a TW, they just want to pee/get changed, they are so vulnerable and oppressed, they go through so much, they are no threat, stop being horrible bigots posters? Don't see them for dust on any thread that evidences anything detrimental to their sacred caste.

Maybe Merlin and pals are all on jolly holidays together and can’t access the internet 😂

PriamFarrl · 31/07/2023 17:48

I do wonder if usually the content AC puts on line either only gets positive comments from within the community, or gets ignored (there were a lot of tweets with no traction at all). Therefore maybe that equates in some people's minds to people not actively disagreeing with AC 's behaviour being equal to a green light to carry on.

Its like no one commenting on someone being trans, because it doesn’t need commenting on, and people assuming that it means they have passed.

mrshoho · 31/07/2023 17:52

Hepwo · 31/07/2023 17:33

https://twitter.com/moira_robin/status/1685744318198501376

What is White like? Having an argument over the use of wandering around versus cut through.

RMW grasping at straws if all RMW can complain about is the use of the word 'wandering'. If only women's worries were as insignificant as Robin's.

MavisMcMinty · 31/07/2023 17:53

Boiledbeetle · 31/07/2023 17:36

Sits on hands.

Sews lips shut.

Version12 · 31/07/2023 17:53

In women's football, if a player is under-18 she has a different changing room to the rest of the team (most of whom will be in their 20s), because of safeguarding. If the manager is male, he won't be allowed into the changing rooms to do his team talk. It does beggar belief that this person felt it was appropriate to walk through a changing room of girls getting changed for swimming. Just so horrible. But of course, that's part of the fun, isn't it?

BonfireLady · 31/07/2023 17:55

Boiledbeetle · 31/07/2023 17:36

Sits on hands.

Yes, it's certainly an interesting fight to pick.
To be fair to Robin, wandering around does have different connotations. However, the headline referred to "wandering through". And yes, the newspaper talked about stopping officials (of any sex) walking through. However the paper also went on to say that no separate facility was needed because Anne wasn't getting changed. By implication this means that Anne would have needed to be separated from the girls if that were the case.

Either way, Robin is picking an odd fight around the semantics of words. The net effect will simply be to perpetuate the story for longer and raise its profile higher.

It's almost ironic how unfair it must feel when the subtleties of a minor language tweak are used in a way that works against you.

Datun · 31/07/2023 17:56

Hepwo · 31/07/2023 17:33

https://twitter.com/moira_robin/status/1685744318198501376

What is White like? Having an argument over the use of wandering around versus cut through.

I can't wait to hear that Anne being on the, er, 'milf milking masturbation' is just them demonstrating an interest in the benefits of dairy products.