“If you see a TERF, punch them in the fucking face!” Speech at Trans Pride London 8 July 2023

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Sarah Jane Baker, on the Trans Pride stage, saying

“If you see a TERF, punch them in the fucking face!”

to a cheering crowd :)

https://twitter.com/unpopulargenz/status/1677790606561628160

NB to MNHQ the video shows this being said. It is not just an allegation being shared.

Gc views are protected but does being a Terf mean the same thing? I’d say yes but probably some would say not.

It's not about whether GC views are protected. That's the EA, not criminal law.

If you shared his email address on this thread, perhaps we could respond directly to him en masse?

This response is derisory.

We walked past the march in London yesterday and I saw one sign that said “I LOVE PISSING ON TERFS”. So, yea 😕.

I would forward that response to your MP.

Apparently the police think it’s totally fine for people to celebrate pride by inciting crowds to punch people who don’t share their beliefs.

We all know what a terf means and we all know who would win that punch up don't we.

"I believe the most appropriate offence may potentially be a PO s5."

Public Order Code Section 5a:

Harassment, alarm or distress.

(1)A person is guilty of an offence if he—
(a)uses threatening [F1or abusive] words or behaviour, or disorderly behaviour

But apparently it doesn’t matter because harassing people is part of how you celebrate pride. According to the police.

You mean biological males on cross sex hormones still have a physical advantage over women?

That's the point GC make about sport.

That response is from a Stonewall captured police force - sadly intent on creating a hostile environment for women and girls.

JFC. That’s appalling. Unbelievable, incredible, jaw-dropping.

I've just reported this to the Met too. It is unbelievable. This cannot b be allowed to stand.

Calling Barker a " female".

Yes, similar to the irony of trans women needing to use women-only toilets and changing rooms because “men are so dangerous”. Yes love, that’s why we don’t want men in there.

Thanks, getting my legislation mixed up! I will be telling various friends who live in the Richmond Park constituency not to make the mistake of voting for this independent candidate as some sort of protest vote against the main 3 parties.

Apparently Barker can be recalled to prison at any time.

I will be telling various friends who live in the Richmond Park constituency not to make the mistake of voting for this independent candidate as some sort of protest vote against the main 3 parties.

Wow, is that likely to happen?

'Being trans' is not a protected characteristic. Gender re-assignment is.

Apparently we only need to worry about cis predatory males. TWs are harmless. Does this mean SJB is not a true TW as TWs would never be or threaten to be violent? So confusing 🤔

The police have their own categories for so called "hate crime" and theirs is "transgender identity"

A protest vote, yes. Not looking carefully at a candidate’s background and voting for them because they’re unlikely to win, yes. Voting for this candidate once they know the background, no. I think the LibDem candidate is pretty sure to win in Richmond Park.

I’ve never seen a nicer, safer, friendlier man in all my life. Absolutely delightful individual.

Somebody, a Man UTD fan, was arrested by the metropolitan police recently for wearing a football shirt with a slur, towards those who died at Hillsborough, on the back.

"The fan was arrested before Saturday's FA Cup final "after being seen wearing a shirt which appeared to refer in offensive terms to those who died in the Hillsborough tragedy", the Metropolitan Police said in their statement. Ninety-seven Liverpool fans died in the Hillsborough tragedy in 1989"

Really?

But even if so, they are incorrectly interpreting the equalities act.

I've never seen much evidence that the police feel obliged to adhere to the Equality Act, on this or many other issues.