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“If you see a TERF, punch them in the fucking face!” Speech at Trans Pride London 8 July 2023

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IwantToRetire · 09/07/2023 00:46

Sarah Jane Baker, on the Trans Pride stage, saying

“If you see a TERF, punch them in the fucking face!”

to a cheering crowd :)

https://twitter.com/unpopulargenz/status/1677790606561628160

NB to MNHQ the video shows this being said. It is not just an allegation being shared.

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JacquelinePot · 09/07/2023 08:51

Twitter is playing up? Has he been mass reported to the stonewall enforcement service police?

zanahoria · 09/07/2023 08:58

I am not a Labour MP but have no idea who SJB is

Does anyone have a link to reports of the offences?

I assume they were under a different name

zanahoria · 09/07/2023 09:02

Thanks Meowgender

Sometimes it is hard to keep up with these name changing criminals

lightlypoached · 09/07/2023 09:05

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ResisterRex · 09/07/2023 09:06

Sarah Phillimore has written to probation and Manchester police:

twitter.com/svphillimore/status/1677949952230555648?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

PurpleGreenandWhiteAreTheNewPrimaryColours · 09/07/2023 09:21

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Thank you. I was wondering about how to do this.

We need the press to pick this one up, I think it would put met police on the spot.

SkinnyMalinkyLankyLegs · 09/07/2023 09:25

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I went to report it but it asks for details of where the crime took place ie address, postcode and so on.

PurpleGreenandWhiteAreTheNewPrimaryColours · 09/07/2023 09:27

NecessaryScene · 09/07/2023 07:12

Incitement to violence isn't always the easiest thing to secure a conviction on, what with freedom of speech concerns. But here we're talking basic license terms.

No need to secure conviction here - he's already convicted, and only out on license.

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn03626/

Murder carries a mandatory life sentence. This can, but rarely does, mean that the offender will spend the rest of his natural life in prison. An offender given a mandatory life sentence who is released from prison will remain on licence for the rest of his or her life.

So the question is, at what point will the probation authorities draw the line. Generally, it's pretty vague - there are hard lines on re-offending, but otherwise
"be of good behaviour and not behave in a way which undermines the purpose of the licence period".

Presumably he thinks that's vague enough that his trans shield protects him - anyone making the decision will be able to exercise enough discretion to let anything slide, as Family Guy's "oh you're transgender - in that case do whatever you want all of the time" rule.

Oh I'm sure he thinks he's completely untouchable on anything trans related as the new state sponsored religion will probably protect him.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 09/07/2023 09:56

what do terfs look like? how can you be sure you're punching the right woman in the face?

this guy should be in prison

NecessaryScene · 09/07/2023 09:57

I am not a Labour MP but have no idea who SJB is

More details here:

https://the-lies-they-tell.org/2023/05/20/profile-of-trans-activist-sarah-jane-baker/

Points out an error I made above - I was mistakenly thinking his life sentence was for murder; it was actually for attempted murder while in prison for kidnapping+GBH.

So he's not that bad after all(!)

Profile of trans activist Sarah Jane Baker

Introduction Sarah Jane Baker, formerly Alan Baker, is a trans-identified male who has spent 30 years in prison for two violent offences. This is a look at his life, according to himself as present…

https://the-lies-they-tell.org/2023/05/20/profile-of-trans-activist-sarah-jane-baker

PurpleGreenandWhiteAreTheNewPrimaryColours · 09/07/2023 10:06

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 09/07/2023 09:56

what do terfs look like? how can you be sure you're punching the right woman in the face?

this guy should be in prison

Well if she has a penis you can be sure SJB will think she's a worthy woman not deserving of a punch.

PurpleGreenandWhiteAreTheNewPrimaryColours · 09/07/2023 10:07

SkinnyMalinkyLankyLegs · 09/07/2023 09:25

I went to report it but it asks for details of where the crime took place ie address, postcode and so on.

Was it trafalgar square can anyone confirm?

Datun · 09/07/2023 10:08

Usually the threats to women are made when they're trying to silence women and stop us from meeting. So it's interesting to see the usual behavioural incontinence on display at a trans pride march with VAWG openly celebrated from the platform.

This. We should thank him really, because he's making it perfectly clear that the goal is violence against women. That's what he likes, violence. And he's found an easy target.

The masks are so off, they've all put them in a pile in the middle, and burnt them while chanting we hate women, and now everybody knows it.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 09/07/2023 10:09

how do people find themselves part of a crowd cheering someone who is encouraging them to punch people with differing views in the face?

sometimes humans make me despair

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 09/07/2023 10:14

Just worth repeating the names of the Labour MPs who were happy to stand next to this dangerous and violent man at a protest outside Downing street

Olivia Blake MP for Sheffield, Hallam
Nadia Whittome MP for Nottingham East
Lloyd Russell-Moyle MP for Brighton, Kemptown

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 09/07/2023 10:14

all Labour, of course

CorruptedCauldron · 09/07/2023 10:15

“If you see a woman who holds the protected belief that you can’t literally change sex, and that sex matters in certain circumstances, then punch her in the face” is basically what he’s saying. But he uses the dehumanising term “terf” - the modern-day form of “witch”.

This guy is actively telling people to punch women who disagree with him. He’s been given a mainstream public platform to do that and is being cheered on by a crowd. He should be in prison.

334bu · 09/07/2023 10:23

Appalling, however no hate crime involved because just inciting violence against mere women.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 09/07/2023 10:25

but inciting violence is a crime crime

I mean we know he hates women (hence the insulting role play). but there's no need to bring that into it. it's enough that he's inciting violence, surely?

Xoxoxoxoxoxox · 09/07/2023 10:26

There seems to have been a lot of anti’terf’ banners there.
Not unexpected at a men’s rights rally I guess.

“If you see a TERF, punch them in the fucking face!” Speech at Trans Pride London 8 July 2023
Helleofabore · 09/07/2023 10:28

ResisterRex · 09/07/2023 09:06

Sarah Phillimore has written to probation and Manchester police:

twitter.com/svphillimore/status/1677949952230555648?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

That is a good letter.

And it really seems that this person has some mental health issues from the looks of the tweets directed to Sarah about her book event.

I thought they lived in London and that the individual in question was threatening to stand as an electoral candidate? But from the tweets to Spero, it seems that they are in Manchester???

https://richmond.nub.news/news/local-news/new-richmond-park-mp-candidate-is-uks-longest-serving-transgender-prisoner

New Richmond Park MP candidate is UK's longest-serving transgender prisoner

<strong>The UK's longest-serving transgender prisoner is planning to run for office in Richmond Park, making her the UK's first trans MP if she won.</strong>

https://richmond.nub.news/news/local-news/new-richmond-park-mp-candidate-is-uks-longest-serving-transgender-prisoner

EarthSight · 09/07/2023 10:28

Misgendering someone is literal violence apparently, a possible hate crime which might get you a visit from the police.....so are the police going to visit this person as well then?

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 09/07/2023 10:28

that banner says 'protect trans lives'

sorry, who is on a podium being cheered while advocating for who to be punched in the face?

that you woman wearing a 'terfs r cunts' t-shirt. what a twit

Theimpossiblegirl · 09/07/2023 10:28

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 09/07/2023 09:56

what do terfs look like? how can you be sure you're punching the right woman in the face?

this guy should be in prison

Ask her if she has a penis? Or a bonus hole?

They're not even pretending any more. He should be locked up in a prison that matches his biology.

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