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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
Whaeanui · 06/04/2023 13:55

I think it's been a long journey for DH, but it's good to see the position they are now taking. I agree. I asked Debbie personally about the use of female changing rooms and I know they now know why they shouldn’t use them. We should allow for trans people to listen and learn too.

BiologicalKitty · 06/04/2023 13:55

Nothing about DH is honest. Nothing.

ScrollingLeaves · 06/04/2023 13:57

BiologicalKitty · Today 13:55
Nothing about DH is honest. Nothing.

Why do you say that?

Flowerly · 06/04/2023 14:10

Jonei · 06/04/2023 13:52

I think it's been a long journey for DH, but it's good to see the position they are now taking.

I agree.

MorningPlatypus · 06/04/2023 14:15

Debbie and Freda are two cheeks of the same hairy arse.

Debbie has admitted to using the ladies'loos at a feminist event, and staying at the YWCA for another.

He's appointed himself as AGP spokesman for women and girls and is adored by some professional feminists.

On Twitter he argues for the rights of men like him to be allowed access to women's spaces such as prisons. Because he transitioned a long time ago, and he's absolutely harmless, and we can't possibly lump him in with the other transwomen come lately.

I don't trust him.

circleback · 06/04/2023 14:20

Freda appears to hate women so much, it's a mystery why Freda ever wanted to become one.

Imho this applies to most TW.

Flowerly · 06/04/2023 14:22

circleback · 06/04/2023 14:20

Freda appears to hate women so much, it's a mystery why Freda ever wanted to become one.

Imho this applies to most TW.

Yes they really do hate us - it's dripping off the screen from the lovely Freda.

Abra1t · 06/04/2023 14:34

I'm very surprised there hasn't been more media commentary on the fact that some of these Wolverhampton/Walsall 'women' are clearly not the old-fashioned type of woman, as Ricky would put it. Why aren't people saying the obvious?

Zodfa · 06/04/2023 14:35

I don't agree with Debbie Hayton on a lot of things but I'd rather have all trans people be more like Debbie Hayton than have what most of them currently seem to be.

Flowerly · 06/04/2023 14:59

Abra1t · 06/04/2023 14:34

I'm very surprised there hasn't been more media commentary on the fact that some of these Wolverhampton/Walsall 'women' are clearly not the old-fashioned type of woman, as Ricky would put it. Why aren't people saying the obvious?

They all look female to me.

AHugeTinyMistake · 06/04/2023 15:09

Flowerly · 06/04/2023 14:59

They all look female to me.

And me. I don't think any of them are trans.

BiologicalKitty · 06/04/2023 15:16

Is AGP OK now, as long as the face is friendly enough?

Is it OK that DH's family is collateral damage because DH says some of the right things and takes selfies with the right people?

Has nobody on this thread seen the channel 4 special where his wife's desperation shows clearly on her face?

DH is driven by self confessed sexual proclivities just as much as any other AGP. And anyone who welcomes that point of view into feminist spaces is playing right into the game, as well as pushing DH's wife right out.

Datun · 06/04/2023 15:16

ScrollingLeaves · 06/04/2023 13:43

BiologicalKitty · Today 09:30
DH is just as much an AGP as anyone else who enjoys larping as a woman. DH has admitted this.

I will never understand why women think DH is special or worth listening to.

Is it because DH dresses like a harmless school marm? Although even that has been changing into more sexualised clothing over time.

It is because DH is honest, and also understands biological reality.

Understanding biological reality is not hard, but even then, Hayton fails.

There was quite a long conversation with him on here where he seemed very surprised that the size of a woman's breasts did not indicate her social standing amongst peers. The larger they were, apparently, the higher up the hierarchy she went.

If I recall correctly, it was right after Hayton wore a sundress to a KJK event with some fake breasts.

He seemed completely oblivious to the fact that associating big breasts with social cachet could be considered the result of watching too much porn. Or that female objectification is not a manual on how to be a woman.

Hayton is a self confessed AGP. A fetish where being treated as a woman is sexually arousing. As a teacher he helped write the union guidelines for schools to let transwomen to use the women's toilets and for his pupils to call him Miss.

But everyone needs to make a living, and if Hayton wants to position himself as the moderate voice of transwomen, that's entirely his prerogative.

Personally, I don't really take the word of an autogynophile that seriously, when it comes to women's rights.

RealityFan · 06/04/2023 15:22

AGPs? Well, even a broken clock tells the time correctly on rare occasions.

I still wouldn't want to rely on that clock.

Hepwo · 06/04/2023 15:25

Frida saying KJK is ridiculous! Look in the mirror Frida!

RealityFan · 06/04/2023 15:28

Hepwo · 06/04/2023 15:25

Frida saying KJK is ridiculous! Look in the mirror Frida!

Frida looks in the mirror every opportunity he can. And every time sees a woman better than any he sees in the real world.

Historians will look back at this period and see a civilisation lose its collective sanity. Let's hope we change course and chart a new future.

I'd hate the West to become past tense.

circleback · 06/04/2023 15:52

There was quite a long conversation with him on here where he seemed very surprised that the size of a woman's breasts did not indicate her social standing amongst peers. The larger they were, apparently, the higher up the hierarchy she went.

And there was I thinking that women only respected you for your FFs Datun. Do you mean to say it’s your coherent posts and analytical brain? Say what?!

Also FFS! Cannot understand how these men are taken seriously.

namitynamechange · 06/04/2023 16:04

RealityFan · 06/04/2023 15:28

Frida looks in the mirror every opportunity he can. And every time sees a woman better than any he sees in the real world.

Historians will look back at this period and see a civilisation lose its collective sanity. Let's hope we change course and chart a new future.

I'd hate the West to become past tense.

I think the West will figure it out eventually. Maybe I'm overly optimistic but I think while democracy/free speech/tolerance of diversity (including viewpoints) are under threat at the moment they'll win out in the end. If anything this whole shambles serves as an advert for why they are so important.

namitynamechange · 06/04/2023 16:05

Frida "the Cis women in my life have no problem..." Well given Frida think dissenters deserve to be attacked and doused in soup that's not really surprising is it

WildIris · 06/04/2023 16:05

If we are setting the bar for good AGP’s as ‘they understand biological reality’, we are fecking doomed!

Datun · 06/04/2023 16:10

circleback · 06/04/2023 15:52

There was quite a long conversation with him on here where he seemed very surprised that the size of a woman's breasts did not indicate her social standing amongst peers. The larger they were, apparently, the higher up the hierarchy she went.

And there was I thinking that women only respected you for your FFs Datun. Do you mean to say it’s your coherent posts and analytical brain? Say what?!

Also FFS! Cannot understand how these men are taken seriously.

Haha!!

Remember that mansplainer on here describing techie stuff to the techie women, who thanked him profusely, because up until then they'd been using their tits to type on the keyboard.

Maybe that's where Hayton gets his misinformation <taps nose>.

Hepwo · 06/04/2023 16:12

Hayton using the title Dr really wound up Wallace! It's a good gender neutral title but the goth horror that is Wallace insisted it must be Mr or Mrs.

All the enbies in Manchester disappeared in a puff of smoke in that moment!

EmpressaurusOfCats · 06/04/2023 16:49

Datun · 06/04/2023 16:10

Haha!!

Remember that mansplainer on here describing techie stuff to the techie women, who thanked him profusely, because up until then they'd been using their tits to type on the keyboard.

Maybe that's where Hayton gets his misinformation <taps nose>.

I’d forgotten about that. It was hilarious.

FriendofJoanne · 06/04/2023 16:53

Are they actually all women? Some look very male…