What if you're all wrong about KJK? Even her own security have serious concerns

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Her own security are saying she's courting trouble for views, knowingly putting them in danger, that she has no human connection with people but her fans don't notice as they hero-worship her and see what they want to see, and that the end game is she's after becoming a talking head in the US, and that SFW women are just pawns she's using to get there.

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She seems more and more like a Katie Hopkins type who's leeching off our movement.

I used to love her, before I get accused of jealousy. I still love the approach of platforming women who don't usually get a chance to be heard.

But actual nazis are now turning up at women's rights events - precisely because KJK refused to denounce them and has been courting the far right for ages. It's not a coincidence.

What does she have to do before women realise she's using us?
At what point do women accept KJK is toxic and damaging our movement?

If those closest to her have serious concerns - shouldn't you?

I don't have an opinion on KJK. She could be good, bad or indifferent. She could be a raging Nazi or a member of the SWP. The only thing that I am aware of is that she provides a platform for women to speak. Can't be all bad.

Oh my god, Posie said that Islamist societies have a misogyny problem? You mean, like Muslim feminists do? What a fascist bigot she is. [/s]
foreignpolicy.com/2012/04/23/why-do-they-hate-us/

I agree with her on these issues. Rotherham & other towns where white girls were/are preyed upon by Muslim men. And I've seen girls as young as 3 wearing head coverings in school (as part of their uniform). Why do you think girls in lower primary need to cover their hair?

I don't get this. KJK speaks to anyone who will give her a platform. She's not endorsing their views, she's speaking about her own views.

Should right wing people not be allowed to hear women speak? Why not?

And please tell us, what's the difference between this and Julie Bindel going on tour with her mate, the fully paid up fascist Milo Yiannopoulis?

Personally I'd say JB has every right to speak to anyone she wants to who will give her a platform. But please explain the hypocrisy of saying JB can do that and not KJK?

1. October 2019, KJK is interviewed by Jean Francois Gariepy, a Canadian, far-right white supremacist. He has called for a “white ethnostate” & previously hosted Nazis Richard Spencer, David Duke & Mark Collett.

KJK later claimed that she didn't know, and doesn't make a habit of researching interviewers, anyway.

If she cared about the impact on others, perhaps she should. But she doesn't.

So far we have KJK objecting to making little girls wear hijab, and her talking to people that you (and I, I'll be honest, I don't like racists and Holocaust deniers either) disagree with.

But I talk to people I disagree with all the time. Plus, as @FOJN said, left wing outlets have been fucking useless on this issue. Fucking fucking useless. So where else is she supposed to go?

Where did I say that? I didn't.

Has anybody denounced the Newtophiles, yet? I will.

& former top aide to U.S Republican Lauren Boebart.

So... a legitimate politician, then.

1. January 2020/May 2021, KJK is interviewed by Carl Benjamin (aka Sargon of Akkad) - British YouTuber & former unsuccessful UKIP candidate in the 2019 European Parl. election. Helped launch far-right org Hearts of Oak along with Tommy Robinson.

I don't want to denounce the newtophiles. But if you want to you can, that's fine by me.

I mean I'll never be able to talk to you ever again as our values will have diverged, but it's the price i will have to pay for siding with the newtophiles i guess.

So her sins are talking to people and saying things that are factually true.

Crikey.

So, to clarify:

Do you think that both JB and KJK are fine to talk to right wing people who give them a platform?

Or do you think neither should be allowed to do so?

If the latter, where are your threads about how we should stop supporting JB?

And, she doesn't talk to everyone. Can you find me a string of left wing commentators she's talking to?

Please name all the left wing commentators who have offered Posie a spot on their shows, podcasts, publications?

Did she turn down Jon Stewart, Trevor Noah and PBS to go on Fox news?

Do you, you massive misogynist, take any responsibility for normalising forced hijab of children in this country, andit? Your support of fundamentalist religuous purity culture that oppresses women?

extract from Amnesty

Iran’s forced hijab laws are a blatant breach of the rights to freedom of expression and religion, and the right to privacy. Women and girls in Iran are not allowed to set foot outside their homes unless they cover their hair with a headscarf and cover up their arms and legs with loose clothing.

Under Iranian law, women and girls as young as nine years old who are seen in public without a headscarf can be punished with a prison sentence of between 10 days and two months, or a cash fine. In practice, Iran’s authorities have imposed forced hijab on girls as young as seven years old.

Over the past year, Iran’s authorities have stepped up their crackdown on women’s rights defenders peacefully protesting against forced hijab laws. The most shocking example is the case of prominent human rights lawyer Nasrin Sotoudeh, who was sentenced in the past week to 33 years in prison and 148 lashes, in part, for her opposition to forced hijab laws.

The charges on which Nasrin Sotoudeh was convicted include “inciting corruption and prostitution” and “openly committing a sinful act… by appearing in public without a hijab”. Some of the activities that the authorities have cited as “evidence” against her include: opposing forced hijab; removing her headscarf during prison visits; defending women who peacefully protested against forced hijab; giving media interviews about the violent arrest and detention of women protesting against forced hijab; and placing flowers at the scene where a woman protester was violently arrested.

Everyone that The Real Feminists of B Right On don’t like is Literally Hitler.

Even the Communists.

(aka TransNazis?)

Hearts of Oak are not far right and Tommy Robinson are nothing to do with them. We know, because we had seven or eight threads about this previously.

And that she makes money.

And that she looks nice, I think.

Yeah!. After all those posts i still find myself asking🖕

You're very naive if you think KJK is only speaking to this lot because they're the only people who'll give her publicity.

KJK managed to get herself onto national TV - her AHF campaign and her subsequent skewering of Harrop was a thing of beauty. She's skilled at PR and marketing. But you think she needs to scabble around with low life holocaust deniers and racists because she can't get an "in" anywhere else?

Bollocks. She's savvy, and she's building an audience. The right wing pundits are the access to her audience. That's where the $$$ and the gravy train is.

Boiled I think that Ron Swanson is the ideal gif for this!

Oh can we add she's skilled and successful to the list of KJK's evil. I mean how very dare she?

Hang on, I've just remembered that a left wing organisation DID give KJK a platform to speak. Don't know if you've heard of it, it's called Women's Place UK.

And then withdrew it because they didn't like her objecting to 7 year olds in hijabi.

1. July/Aug 2020, KJK interviews Kay Soco (Soco Films). Soco Films is a racist, Christian Right outfit broadcasting debates from Speakers Corner & favouring anti Muslim & anti-semitic content.

such a good point