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Let Women SPeak - Australia & NZ tour

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ZombieMumEB · 11/02/2023 06:41

I am so excited that this is coming to Australia - I will hopefully be attending.

Anyone else?

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Datun · 18/03/2023 13:01

QuinnLovesEris · 18/03/2023 12:30

Still ranting.... it's not even stuff she's said or done; they're expecting her to take responsibility for random men. How is that even remotely feminist?

It's not. More importantly, it doesn't work.

And I hear your rant!!

At some point Aussie MSM will ask Kellie, what is the alcheral problem, luv? It's too click baity not to.

And then, she will tell them.

And it will only go one way, because she is right.

She had a lot of pushback from interviewers on TV and radio when she first started. Frustrating, exasperating. Men who didn't get it, being ridiculously sexist. Mocking her, whilst handling the transwomen callers with kid gloves.

The woman has got some real cajones because it just makes her more determined.

Wellies54 · 18/03/2023 13:14

The tailors made sure it was known that only the cleverest people could see the Emperor's magical new clothes. Anyone who could not see them was stupid. The people were desperate to prove that they were clever so they competed to outdo each other in how loudly they shouted about the clothes and about how extravagantly they described their beauty - thereby demonstrating that they were both stupid and easily manipulated.

The TRAs have sure it is known that only the most progressive people can see the magical new truth that some men are actually women. Anyone who cannot see this is an authoritarian bigot. Some people are desperate to prove that they are progressive so they compete to outdo each other in how loudly they proclaim that some men are women, how viciously they police pronouns, how proudly they trample women's rights and how enthusiastically they cheer on the sterilisation of young people - thereby demonstrating that they are both authoritarian bigots and easily manipulated.

QuinnLovesEris · 18/03/2023 13:30

Datun · 18/03/2023 13:01

It's not. More importantly, it doesn't work.

And I hear your rant!!

At some point Aussie MSM will ask Kellie, what is the alcheral problem, luv? It's too click baity not to.

And then, she will tell them.

And it will only go one way, because she is right.

She had a lot of pushback from interviewers on TV and radio when she first started. Frustrating, exasperating. Men who didn't get it, being ridiculously sexist. Mocking her, whilst handling the transwomen callers with kid gloves.

The woman has got some real cajones because it just makes her more determined.

One thing I have noticed with these tours of hers - it's giving us a clearer (much-needed) picture of where other countries are at. I also find it interesting to see the same patterns repeating, and take heart in knowing we're making good progress here - the Australians I've known are all pretty grounded, and I'm hopeful the women there will restore sanity if they hold the line.

We were so lucky to be organised enough to block self-id. I know we still have enormous challenges ahead to restore safeguarding, but we're at least able to be more vocal these days.

MarchXX · 18/03/2023 13:40

I stayed up to watch live and was shocked at how fast the aggressive male forced his way to the mic and ripped it from the speaker's hands, shoving her back roughly. The security quickly overpowered him and removed him. The mic was broken and a new one quickly found and the brave woman resumed her narrative.

Earlier, at the beginning of the event there was a stramash which wasn't filmed but I later saw a clip on twitter and it was a woman wearing an orange patterned dress suddenly screaming, crouching and "giving birth" to something baby blue and baby pink and another women thrusting though her legs to "be born". Bizarre. A woman tweeted that she had chatted with this woman before the start and she had been friendly and pleasant. The poster was upset and betrayed after this incident Sad.

I am confused that the police permitted the black clad and masked males (very much like our own resident Black Pampers) to remain nearby the women on the steps. They were clearly nothing to do with the women talking. Furthermore, why did they eventually lead these men (doing nazi salutes Sad ) right past the TRAs? That seemed incendiary. However, interestingly, the TRAs ignored them and continued to scream and harangue the women. What on earth was that about?

On twitter the TRA sympathisers are accusing KJK of being a nazi (yawn) because these men were nearby on the steps. Ridiculous, of course, as this is a public area where any citizen can congregate. They are getting increasingly desperate to shut her (and all women) up. We will not be silenced.

Datun · 18/03/2023 13:44

QuinnLovesEris · 18/03/2023 13:30

One thing I have noticed with these tours of hers - it's giving us a clearer (much-needed) picture of where other countries are at. I also find it interesting to see the same patterns repeating, and take heart in knowing we're making good progress here - the Australians I've known are all pretty grounded, and I'm hopeful the women there will restore sanity if they hold the line.

We were so lucky to be organised enough to block self-id. I know we still have enormous challenges ahead to restore safeguarding, but we're at least able to be more vocal these days.

Yes, and as an island we're also, comparatively, very densely populated and small.

Communication is quicker, more prolific. The actual numbers of people affected by the ideology end up talking to each other. It's not one person in one state, and three people in another, a 1000 miles away. It's six GC parents all in your kid's school. Or two at Brownies. Or half your teen's peer group. (Or in the case of Brighton, 70 children in one year.)

That's, I believe, why we are the first.

But we won't be the last.

Because we're right.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 18/03/2023 13:52

I am confused that the police permitted the black clad and masked males (very much like our own resident Black Pampers) to remain nearby the women on the steps. They were clearly nothing to do with the women talking. Furthermore, why did they eventually lead these men (doing nazi salutes ) right past the TRAs? That seemed incendiary. However, interestingly, the TRAs ignored them and continued to scream and harangue the women. What on earth was that about?

It's all very odd, really. We know these men like to get into it with other men. Both sides. Why did the men in black just stand there, do a lame salute, and then leave? Why didn't the TRAs challenge them? By all accounts they were really hyped up, there are accounts that they punched police horses trying to break through Angry

OneMorePlant · 18/03/2023 14:26

I honestly believe a lot of these men are paid trying to discredit women speaking. There is way too much money involved into transitioning people and the laws quickly and silently passed are a precedent to something else so they need to stay.

Follow the money.

BoreOfWhabylon · 18/03/2023 14:52

Really good livestream from this woman
www.youtube.com/live/xDCd5xBnRFY?feature=share
Started with the crowds building and police action, lots of chats with people, different camera angle during event

BoreOfWhabylon · 18/03/2023 15:01

The one who grabbed the mic is right up next KJK from the start. Definitely a man - really easy to see bad wig, wide shoulders, etc. Haven't got to the bit where he goes into action yet. He infiltrated the crowd and bided his time.

Signalbox · 18/03/2023 15:09

Funny, I've never seen so many red flags at a TRA demo before. I wonder if the Trots are starting to see an opportunity for recruitment. SWP and the like have a history of coopting causes that are popular with youth. This would be ideal recruiting ground for them.

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BoreOfWhabylon · 18/03/2023 15:22

Right - there were several of them, not just the one in kjk's footage. At least two more, both male.

BordoisAgain · 18/03/2023 15:50

There's a clip on twitter

twitter.com/ReduxxMag/status/1636910267240988673?t=YaS4qtO76J-26sfe_lS1PA&s=19

FannyCann · 18/03/2023 16:16

What people like Mishy have always failed to grasp is that the TRA generated publicity that KJK attracts, is something she capitalises on.

And she always has the perfect comeback. Their lack of sense of humour or imagination really lets them down and always gives her something to make hay with.

They thought calling her a W ⚓️ would be the perfect insult and she laughed back and said "it's because I've still got my genitals". So funny.

FannyCann · 18/03/2023 16:20

That horse has a bored Meh , seen it all before 🥱 attitude the way it is standing there head half down looking utterly unfazed.

Grin
MarchXX · 18/03/2023 18:12

BoreOfWhabylon · 18/03/2023 14:52

Really good livestream from this woman
www.youtube.com/live/xDCd5xBnRFY?feature=share
Started with the crowds building and police action, lots of chats with people, different camera angle during event

Watching now. Really interesting recording of the build up and where various factions are corraled. Clear recording of the 'man in bad wig' standing at the front and, at approx 1:07:54 launching himself on the mic. Also a different view, approx 59 minutes in, of the woman in orange dress 'giving birth' to her friend Hmm.

Thanks for posting, @BoreOfWhabylon Smile

RufusthefIoraImissingreindeer · 18/03/2023 18:58

However, interestingly, the TRAs ignored them and continued to scream and harangue the women. What on earth was that about?

These people find it much easier to attack women than actual nazis....that's because these people are gutless

RufusthefIoraImissingreindeer · 18/03/2023 19:03

EndlessTea · 18/03/2023 10:26

I am watching something where KJK confirms this is a man.

I'm assuming mishi as you haven't....oh gosh what's that word I'm thinking of...ooh i know, denounced that person attacking a speaker that you think that's absolutely fine

You and your 'I take it this women is opposed to KJK , oh the humanity " schtick

MarchXX · 18/03/2023 19:36

https://www.youtube.com/live/xDCd5xBnRFY?feature=share

If you watch the youtube video@BoreOfWhabylon put up earlier, scroll through to 1 hour, 53 minutes, 51 seconds to hear an incredible piece of poetry by a fantastic young woman. Powerful and inspiring!

Bosky · 18/03/2023 20:10

MishyJDI · 18/03/2023 10:35

I think this is a far challenge

That's four dead cats thrown on the table to distract from the incredibly powerful speeches at #LetWomenSpeak events.

ps. No one "quoted Hitler" at Newcastle. Referenced the origin of a very well-known and widely-used term for a key principle of propaganda, yes. But no, there were no "quotes", none. A lot about the process and evidence of gaslighting, brainwashing and manipulating people though.

Excellent speech - little wonder a dead cat the size of a tiger has been slapped on the table in an attempt to distract attention.

IwantToRetire · 18/03/2023 20:25

I find it incredible that the Daily Mail is continuing to publish articles from Australian correspondents that are so factually incorrect. This is the 3rd or 4th. Is there not a complaint procedure, or should we all make fun of the DM for letting itself become the mouthpiece of the SWP or Australian equivilent.

But it does look like that the smear effect is working ie portraying SfW as right wing reactionaries is a recruiting tool for TRAs but perhaps worse encouraged actual right wingers to think the event is something they should attend.

ie the shit stirring is what is causing the problems, not the event itself.

ie that the assumed to be fake group that published this article - see www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4757046-feminist-left-australia-are-warning-women-not-to-attend-standing-for-women-events-with-kjk-because-the-tour-is-funded-by-cpac has become a tool for both sides of male politics, obscuring women's politics.

And for anyone who hasn't seen it, here is a post from an actual left wing feminist group in Australis taking a much more pro woman stance - and of course because of that are getting any media time or recognition mobile.twitter.com/Ozwimmsrights/status/1633612995904552960

NancyDrawed · 18/03/2023 20:31

Thanks for the clipped link, Bosky

2.56 ' this ideology that I call the Trans Phallus-y'

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FOJN · 18/03/2023 21:40

They just can't help themselves can they, AF4WR managed to do it with class.

twitter.com/ShayWoulahan/status/1637074359318716416

dimorphism · 18/03/2023 21:41

Ereshkigalangcleg · 18/03/2023 13:52

I am confused that the police permitted the black clad and masked males (very much like our own resident Black Pampers) to remain nearby the women on the steps. They were clearly nothing to do with the women talking. Furthermore, why did they eventually lead these men (doing nazi salutes ) right past the TRAs? That seemed incendiary. However, interestingly, the TRAs ignored them and continued to scream and harangue the women. What on earth was that about?

It's all very odd, really. We know these men like to get into it with other men. Both sides. Why did the men in black just stand there, do a lame salute, and then leave? Why didn't the TRAs challenge them? By all accounts they were really hyped up, there are accounts that they punched police horses trying to break through Angry

The most obvious answer is that they're on the same side.

Datun · 19/03/2023 00:06

I'm sure everyone's seen this (I'm a little behind), but, by God, this woman nailed it.

She starts off tentatively, but by the end she's a roaring lioness. It's only a few minutes if you haven't seen it.

twitter.com/salltweets/status/1636966573629149184/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1636966573629149184&currentTweetUser=salltweets

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