Let Women SPeak - Australia & NZ tour

[ZombieMumEB]

I am so excited that this is coming to Australia - I will hopefully be attending.

Anyone else?

I see the back of a woman standing in front of the men who were doing nazi salutes I can clearly see his hand, palm up, over her right shoulder, no hand shaking in that photo. Even the caption doesn't say she was thanking him. Thomas Sewell may be claiming the women weren't intimidated because she was telling them to fuck off.

Do you have a link to accompany this fairy story?

Who is the woman? was she a steward who didn’t have her hi-vis on? She certainly wasn’t one of the other organisers.

And was this taken over on the stairs well away from where women were speaking? Where people from the public could just walk on through?

You seem rather desperate now.

Or as well as being able to make claims representing Australians and trans people, you claim to know everyone at the event and who they spoke to? Excellent, there is some footage you can work through to find out the name of the person who kicked and knocked over women, and there may be some footage around of trans activists punching police horses. I am sure the police will appreciate you gargantuan repetoire of insider knowledge .

Please contact the police and help them out.

Actually, I would like you to answer whether you are or are not someone born in Australia. Because across several threads now you have tried to portray yourself as someone who has some kind of depth of insight into Australian people. Why is that?

*MishyJDI · Today 10:22

I disagree, I think she is bad to the cause of women's feminism.

As opposed to the other sort of feminism? Men's feminism?

Anyone notice that this coverage cut out the first part of Kellie Jay's intro? The bit about 'No woman has a penis'? Cut out completely.

Of course, I think we understand why.

Helleofabore · Today 10:27

Who is the woman? was she a steward who didn’t have her hi-vis on? She certainly wasn’t one of the other organisers.

Look at the expressions on the faces of the men - they're not saying, "Hi babe, great to see ya!" The one to the left, in particular has an expression of scowling contempt. It's not, "Hiya! Thanks for inviting us again! D'you wanna step up and do some Nazi salutes with us?"

Honestly, the desperate reaching of the drones here is laughable. They're like Donald Trump and his "Biggest evah rally in the history of rallies, like 10 million people..."

Haha!! The whole point of you posting on here is because you totally agree! It's almost sweet how do you think it's not universally transparent.

You know full well the impact she's having. You're only too well aware of the publicity she generates. It's patently obvious to you, and literally everyone else how violent transactivists show themselves up, over and over.

If she wasn't having any kind of effect, you wouldn't even be here 🤣

There is a Let Women Speak NZ 2023 account.

twitter.com/l_o_u_t

And I thought this was lovely. Lots of links in the video.

Nice try.

All you have done on this thread is tell us what feminists in Australia think with this little gem "Most Aussies are not interested in the sort of anti-feminism masking itself as protecting rights and having attendees quote Mein Kampf as happened in the UK".

Not just making some kind of weird blanket claim about what 'most Aussies' think. Again, are someone born in Australian Mishy? Why do you think you can speak for 'Aussies' at all? I have now really asked this over about 3 or 4 threads where you have done exactly the same type of thing and you never answer.

Why would a poster never answer a direct question about the authenticity of their blanket cultural observations? Don't worry, I will simply continue to ask every time you do it. No worries.

I don't think I am the only Australian on this thread finding it fucking offensive.

Crack on though if you think it helps your credibility.

You also have posted misinformation at every opportunity and failed to provide evidence or even credible discussion for your contribution. You dump and run. I am happy to post the evidence of your dump and runs. I like to think that you are capable of more than that.

I think it will show to any reader that you don't seem to be able to contribute anything but that misinformation, weird blanket cultural observations and gleeful dismissal of the violence women have felt and have wanted to avoid.

If that is what you decree as positive engagement for any topic, I consider myself forewarned about what that says about your posts.

@MishyJDI You're a great help to KJK and I'm sure she appreciates it. Or she would, if she even knew who you were.

Well, Julie Bindel has doubled down and I don't think anyone can say she is backhanding SFW in this thread. I think she is clear that SFW do things differently.

twitter.com/bindelj/status/1637769018491957249?s=20

10:52 AM · Mar 20, 2023

THREAD
For clarification:
1. No Nazi on the planet supports women's rights, or is sympathetic to feminism. They hate us.
2. If the women at the Standing for Women rally are responsible for the Nazis turning up, then Billy Bragg, Owen Jones, and all the other Corbyn supporters/

apologists are responsible for the Ku Klux Klan sending its support re the antisemitism under his leadership.

3. If the Nazis rocked up at one of my public demos I would roundly and publicly condemn them (but that's just me, I'm eccentric like that).

4. There is plenty of feminist critique of right-wing tactics when it comes to trans ideology, such as:

unherd.com/2020/10/feminisms-dangerous-new-allies/

5. Misogynistic men will blame women for anything and everything and they can take a running jump.

So, SFW takes an approach that she would not take, but she is pretty clear that these ridiculousness has gone too far in making such accusations that SFW in any alignment with Neo nazi men who turned up at a rally where women were speaking.

@Helleofabore
Pål Steigan is a proponent for free speech, but seemingly also a proponent for some russian propaganda, anti-semitic conspiracy theories (George Soros as a world dominating lizard) and that Bill Gates pushed covid-19 vaccines to the detriment of people’s health.

I disagree with much of it, but again it was only «his» slightly nutty side which would platform these viewpoints.

Hans Lysglimt (Flash of Light 🙄) Johansen is a complete douche, but I do doubt that KJK knows who he is.

Fringe of the fringe both left (Pål Steigan) and right (Lysglimt) but at least they will let people speak. For now.

The righteous mob is far from New though. The bolsheviks and the formation of the Sovjet, anyone?
The rise of Fascist Italy, Nazi Germany?

Both far fringe sides go for totalitarianism and that is the polar opposite of Let Women Speak.

I will not refute facts, spoken by any side. I don’t think «the left» owns the truth.

That is lovely!

I hear you turbo.

However, if you are a proponent for free speech, I guess you are going to be seen as a proponent for many things that fall under that umbrella.

As I said, it is far better to describe the issues about exactly what was said at that conference.

Do you have proof that Steigan himself is anti-semitic?

Just for those who have fallen for the 'she allowed 'mein kampf' to be quoted, this is the transcript from Lisa Morgan, a speaker at the Newcastle event actually said.

Let Women Speak - Newcastle - Part 2 time 8.59

https://www.youtube.com/live/vgxjSGeCE4Q

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Now, I am going to talk to you about something I have not seen in the press. I am a hypnosis practitioner and have been doing hypnosis for 30 years and helping people to hypnotise others. And I know about language. I know that this is based on something we call the ‘big lie’.

Do you know the ‘big lie’?

The big lie was first described by Adolf Hitler in Mein Kampf. The big lie is such a big lie that ordinary people like us think, ‘Well, that can’t be a lie. Because I have never tell as big a lie as that.’ We only lie in small ways. The big lie… There is one big lie going on and it is being done by men, in the early part of the 20th century.

It began when they had an erotic fantasy. And they decided they were going to sell us the ‘big lie’. And what is the big lie? The big lie is that that ‘transwomen are women’.

But they are not, are they? They are men, and we know that.
So let me just spend a couple of minutes telling you a bit how this hypnosis works.

Repetition. Repetition is hypnotic. The more you repeat it, the more you believe it. The more you hear ‘transwomen are women’, the more a shadow of that big lie, lies in your head.

I am sure that I am not alone in that I am sat at home and thinking, maybe there is, you know, maybe they do have female thought patterns. No! The effing don’t! All the thought patterns I have, are my thought patterns and I have as much DNA that is female in my toenail that Izzard doesn’t have in any part of him.

So the thing is, you start to believe it. You start to believe it. And if you repeat an idea over and over again, and people start to believe it, and you want them to believe it, that is called affirmation. Affirmation is what hypnotists use to make you believe something. So, ‘be kind’ is an affirmation.

If you are sympathetic to this ideology, this ideology that I call the ‘trans phallus - ey’. If you are sympathetic, then you are affirming. Everytime you call a he who says he is a she, she, you are affirming.

Affirmation makes people believe things. If you repeat it and you repeat it. I hope that I am repeating this enough that you will be in no doubt, no doubt ever, that a man is a man and a woman is a woman.

So how to stop this, what is called ‘gaslighting’, what is called brain washing.
Manage your emotions. Don’t match them. Don’t get sympathetic. Don’t go ‘there there dear’.

Break the chant. Pour cold water over their lies. Do it realistically or do it with your words. Your honest words break people out of compliance. If you are honest, they cannot stay where they are, cos it is all about stake management. We have to manage our emotions.

Refuse to affirm.

And the best thing is laugh. I know that I am not laughing now, but I do laugh a lot.

And I want to just give you one last tip on hypnosis. Don’t ever say to someone, ‘transwomen are not women’. Because our unconscious mind does not think ‘not’. It only thinks it is transwomen, women, transwomen, women. Transwomen, well they are women, aren’t they? They are women! Emotions. Emotions are what caught them. They got caught, not by rational things, but they got caught by emotions. And how are we going to break this is by using emotions that shake them out. So, they can’t find that emotional sympathy ever again.

Thank you.

So, discussing a concept such as how a lie that is so inconceivable that normal people cannot believe it is a lie is what she did. And she did it to highlight how society has been influenced to repeat a mantra that males can ever be considered 'women'.

Should this propaganda tool never be discussed because to do so 'invokes' Hitler some how? Will people stop discussing Foucault then? What about mentioning anything that John Money did or said?

I am all for people critiquing what Lisa Morgan said, but let's get to the facts.

Was she 'quoting' or was she pointing out the propaganda tool that she believes has been used? Shall we stop discussing all aspects of communism then as well? Can't discuss the manifesto?

I think only lazy people will fall back on 'she was quoting' because someone else told them she was 'quoting'.

It's a very good speech.

And For anyone to claim that the woman is therefore a nazi is so desperate, it's an absolute cringe fest of embarrassment on their behalf.

No self-respecting adult would do it.

Blog post with the transcript and more - although I hope this does not derail from the current issue of KJK in Oz and NZ:

What Lisa Morgan really said at Newcastle #LetwomenSpeak
Debunking lies that Lisa "praised Hitler" or "read from Mein Kampf"

genderwang.substack.com/p/what-lisa-morgan-really-said-at-newcastle

Wow Bosky, that is a great resource.

I only wish I had known the full transcript was out there already! But thank you for posting that link!

@Helleofabore
His own page is in Norwegian and the rest was lazily from Wikipedia, so it was read with the flavour from his own page in mind.

My take is that I don’t know if his criticism of Soros or Gates amounts to full blown antisemitism or more a marxist criticism of obscenely wealthy men who undoubtedly has a lot to say in how the world spins around.
But more often than not that seems to go together.

The vaccine scare mongering is not completely crazy either, remembering the Astra Zeneca tragedies (3 women nurses died in my country before they halted it and used only Phizer + the one I forget), + the fact that the vaccines are not and cannot be 100% safe for all and that debate was supressed by much media.

He (Steigan) has free speech as one of his big tenets. I support that, even crazy ideas and ideologies. We must be able to have everything out in the open.
I don’t support incitement to violence nor discrimination, and I can’t yet work out if he does.

I think this has already been posted but it bears repeating:

ShayWoulahan

twitter.com/ShayWoulahan/status/1637804660768514048

"ReduxxMag have confirmed that the blog post denouncing ThePosieParker was written by a member of the far right group that hijacked the Let women speak event.

Read this for more evidence that Let Women Speak is not supported or associated with the fascist group"

AUS: Liberal Party To Expel Female Politician For Attending Pro-Woman Rally

"A member of the National Socialist Network, David Hiscox, published an article on his blog denying support for Kellie-Jay Keen, and calling her an “atheist radical feminist” who promotes “lesbianism.”

In an article published by XYZ, an influential propaganda outlet for the broader neo-Nazi movement in Australia, Hiscox claimed Keen’s intention was to reduce the white birth rate. Hiscox also stated his Neo-Nazi group’s goal for turning up at the rally was to hijack Keen’s fight against gender ideology as she was “misdirecting them to reinforce the progress of Liberalism and maintain support for Israel.”

Hiscox wrote: “Both the groomer ideology of ‘trans’ activists and the lesbianism promoted by Kellie-Jay Keen-Minshull are forms of Liberalism directed by the Globohomo regime at White people in order to undermine white families, birthrates and social cohesion.”

On Hiscox’s Twitter account, he celebrated the National Socialist Network’s successful hijacking of the event saying: “The rightful pushback against groomer propaganda cannot be allowed to be dominated by radical feminist atheists who will merely reinforce the gains of cultural Marxism.”

More at:
reduxx.info/aus-liberal-party-to-expel-female-politician-for-attending-pro-woman-rally/

A member of the National Socialist Network, David Hiscox, published an article on his blog denying support for Kellie-Jay Keen, and calling her an “atheist radical feminist” who promotes “lesbianism.”

Then you get posters like saphos calling her a lesbophobic non-feminist. 😁

No wonder KJK can't be fucking asked to refute any of this shit. She would literally be there all day, denying viewpoints attributed to her, which are the polar opposite of each other!

Somebody should start researching a book called The Posie Effect.

Here's KJK's denounciation of the Nazis, I doubt it will satisfy her detractors.

Speaking with NZ Herald, Keen stated, “They’re absolutely not associated with me whatsoever. I absolutely abhor anything to do with Nazis. It’s preposterous they even exist in 2023.”

The reduxx article is excellent. I have linked to Shays tweets before but I hadn't realised she wrote for reduxx.

Sorry if this has already been posted but another really good statement from Australian Feminist for Women's Rights

Misogyny unites our politicians across the divide
twitter.com/Ozwimmsrights/status/1637641791922122752?s=20

WPUK are still saying its KJK fault for not putting out a statement in advance distancing SfW from nazi, but are getting some pushback on their facebook page.

And the best the AGCL can do, is reproduce someone else's tweets saying the same thing but illogically saying this is further evidence about what really happened in Melbourne. Almost as though KJK deserves to be punished for not doing what they want, and so "allowed" this to happen.

But funny how similar WPUK & AGCL are. Wont repeat what I wrote last night about the link between the two groups, but more and more both seem less and less like feminist groups with a cause, but obsessed by a lone individual woman. Sort of like the paparazzi who irrespective of the truth twist situations to get a "good story".

Well next time WPUK have a meeting they can put Billy Bragg on the door as bouncer.

He's complained that a 5'1" woman could easily have seen off the Nazis in Melbourne, so I'm sure he'll have no problem kicking the shit out of any Nazis that might turn up to disrupt a WPUK meeting.

But funny how similar WPUK & AGCL are. Wont repeat what I wrote last night about the link between the two groups, but more and more both seem less and less like feminist groups with a cause, but obsessed by a lone individual woman. Sort of like the paparazzi who irrespective of the truth twist situations to get a "good story".

Honestly the obsession is starting to look a bit stalkerish.