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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Sex not gender, No Outsiders changing the Equality Act, DepHead/DSL captured

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Vebrithien · 01/02/2023 12:51

Well, here we are, with a whole new thread!

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4713725-please-help-gender-not-sex-on-a-school-protected-characteristics-poster-just-spoken-to-the-head?page=10&reply=123546552

Thank you all, so so much for the support you have given me.

I am currently working on the draft of the message I want to send.

Long story short, DD's primary school displays posters by No Outsiders, showing the 9 protected characteristics of the Equality Act. Sex as been replaced with gender.

I have raised this with the Head, the assistant Head, and the Deputy Head (DepHead, as DH just doesn't work here). I have been reassured that sex is synonymous with gender in law, and, through an email stream, No Outsiders have reassured the school that it is deliberate, gender is easier to teach children than sex, especially as some will snigger at sex.

Oh, and teaching that gender is the difference between boys and girls, it makes it easier to then explain gender reassignment later on.

I'll put the message from the DepHead and No Outsiders here, and also my reply, in its current state.

Thank you all again!

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Xiaoxiong · 15/03/2024 19:00

@Vebrithien I've PMed you a quick message - hope you pick this up and all is well. I had my meeting, which left me none the wiser about what is taught and how, so I'm escalating to the head...who of course I'm not sure if he's captured as well or if he's just delegated to subordinates and not realised what's going on.

I'm really, REALLY hoping that the draft schools guidance is enacted in full after the consultation closed on March 12th. That will make my complaint that much stronger as it identifies gender ideology and notes that it's a highly contentious issue. The draft guidance alone is useful but if it's brought in as written it will solve a lot of issues.

One foot in front of the other.

ScrollingLeaves · 24/04/2025 21:44

If you are still around @Vebrithien what good news there has been recently to back you up.

Vebrithien · 24/04/2025 22:27

I am still around, under a different name (LOTR link).

The DepHead has been on secondment to a different school.
LBQT+ history month passed with one mention (about different types of families) and the dreadful "My Dad's a She" or whatever it was called was not used this year.

The NB Mx left the school in July last year.

Lots of parents have said to me that the feeling around the school is much nicer.

Thank you for asking!

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Vebrithien · 24/04/2025 22:29

Oh, and a good number of us that raised the issues last year and before, are now weekly volunteers at the school, so we make ourselves useful and valued.

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TWETMIRF · 24/04/2025 22:50

Great update, glad things are more positive

ScrollingLeaves · 24/04/2025 23:08

That is all good news, and well done again for your efforts at the time when you had to swim against the tide of No Outsider’s and the Deputy Head’s making.

dimorphism · 24/04/2025 23:10

Fantastic news! You did marvellously well and that was all before the SC ruling - you lead the way when it was difficult and stood up for children, something that will not be forgotten on here.

@Vebrithien for PM! (Slightly getting carried away but really, you'd be better than Kier no-apology Starmer).

Vebrithien · 25/04/2025 00:20

Thank you, all.

I have no desire whatsoever to be PM. The DC, my teaching and running keep me busy.

Interestingly, this academic year, I was asked to be part of a DforE research panel, which I've been feeding back on (I teach all sciences and PHSE) and I have been brutally honest about the nefarious impact of GI on our young girls in particular.

I love that spell check went for nefarious.
over negative!

I am happier to speak out in everyday life now.

Weird, posting under this name again, after I was outed. I do wonder if I should just go back now.

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Villagetoraiseachild · 25/04/2025 18:25

Well done, a lot can change in a year. Brava!

dunBle · 26/04/2025 08:05

Really pleased for you @Vebrithien

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