Scottish Parliament final debate on Gender Recognition Reform today

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At some point after 2pm, in the Big Room (the Chamber).

www.parliament.scot/chamber-and-committees/whats-on-and-watch-live/whats-on#wm

Will be interesting to see how the Amendments go down, if they are all struck down as the ScotGov wishes - www.holyrood.com/news/view,gender-recognition-reform-crunch-vote-after-shona-robison-warns-msps-over-amendments

'the Scottish Conservatives have warned that the debate could lead to a "travesty of democracy" because a 15 minute time limit for each proposal will "shut down" discussion.'

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-64032916

Asking if ScotGov would consider a full review into healthcare wrt C&YP

Cass review raises concerns we should take into consideration

Affirmation only, co morbidities, calling for a pause, asking for time to reflect on emerging evidence and consider reasons behind a large proportion of young women

Also saying that not getting a GRC will have little impact on most aspects of life, so no harm in delaying that for young people.

Basically turning the 'it's only an irrelevant bit of admin' on its head

It's reported that Labour will be whipped to vote in favour

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/scottish-labour-back-gender-recognition-28778632

Jamie Green. In a blue shirt/ pink tie. Thanking Stonewall. I think I can guess how this is going to go ...

I was just thinking the same Arabella

'uncomfortable at rate and speed at which we've had to address these amendments'

He is one of 2 Tories who voted with the government at stage 1.

'a small rebellion is expected'

Nothing to scare the horses, though.

Thanks, watching.

Someone on now talking about minor amendments wrt young people's applications.

Kenneth Gibson now talking about counselling of young people, looking for clarification of who that would be. Citing the Cass Review, ND young people.

Am I being thick, but does this mean someone could be legally female in Scotland but when they cross to England become legally male again as the English don't recognise it?

It does my head in when people say 'speak to' not 'speak of'.

E.g 'Speak to ammendment 14'. How can you speak to it, it is not a being.

Emma Roddick suggests 'demedicalising' current process might suggest to young people they don't need to pursue a medical process ...

Kenneth Gibson talking about pressures that may lead to ROGD and the difference between middle aged men and young teen girls.

Talking about Sinead Watson, detransitioner

This guy os greatm saying the brain is not fully formed until 25 so how can we let 16 year old change legal sex

KG now talking about irreversibility, side effects, possible sterility, regret

Stephen Kerr talking about how moving the profound distress nad regret of detransitioners. He'd attended a meeting where 2 detransitioners spoke.

Stephen Kerr saying sitting in a room with two detransitioners was one of the most moving experiences of his life. Clapping.

Now talking about Richie Herron 'I can't grow my genitals back'

'please think of the young people concerned, give those YP time and space to grown and mature'

applause

''think of the young people, give them time to make a good decision.'' Alot of clapping.

Is it just me or does the dude in the pink and blue look a bit embarrased/shifty

These are all completely sensible amendments. It’s shocking that they have not been considered at inception of the process and it’s even more shocking that most of them won’t get addressed.