Fuck. I cannot believe this poster is at it again on a new thread.
This time the language is dismissive about White’s rapes and assaults , ‘Karen has assaulted a few…’
And the minimising of Dolatowalski’s assaults too. When Dolatowalski was a teenager, after this poster started a thread to attempt to shame feminists that potential male teenagers might be asked politely about whether they were in the right toilet the other day?
This has been eye opening! Supposedly from at WPUK supporter too? And an actual feminist?
An actual feminist that posted the following on a thread discussing the attacks on women silently protesting in Oakland the other day.
Please read this selection from their posts, including the twist where they decided to acknowledge violence at women, but …. to minimise it to the point that it was still being dismissed by this poster (despite constant attempts to say they were NOT dismissing the violence).
I read the same dismissal’ in the way this poster writes about children being attacked by a teenaged Dolatowalski and ‘a few women’ raped by White. I will let you all read to see what you think. This selection is from this thread linked here
www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4692559-women-protesting-in-front-of-alameda-county-courthouse-attacked?page=1
This is how many ways this poster has rolled out the "dismiss violence by minimising it, even while denying minimising/dismissing it" tactic. Using repeated minimisation of the attacks where women had eggs and cream pies throw at them. And then the attempt to expand the topic of the thread so as to make discussion meaningless because the expanded topic about horrific violence in large scale protests would render these small protests insignificant. With some other accusations like ‘racism’ thrown in…
06/12/2022 17:43 "A pie in the face, eggs being thrown, signs snatched are not “going too far” or considered “violence” in a country where other protesters are regularly shot with rubber bullets and some are even shot and killed with real bullets or killed by being rammed by a car or SUV (yes I’m talking about even since 2020, not in the bad old days)."
06/12/2022 22:05 "If it’s a “new norm” for the USA it is actually quite heartening to see compared to killed by gun violence, death by vehicle, water cannons and tear gas."
pivot to now superficially acknowledge violence, while still dismissing it
06/12/2022 22:36 "I said it’s not acceptable, but given the way protests in the USA can and have gone down, I think it’s pretty tone deaf to imply what happened is some new escalation of violence when it is clearly a significant de-escalation of violence."
"I dont know if you have seen Antifa in action before? Usually they’re not coming at you with cream pies and eggs. Usually it’s bricks and glass bottles."
"It’s not wrong to point out these women were actually quite lucky. It could have been much worse."
06/12/2022 23:16 "It’s a bit naive to be pretending that cream pies and an egg or two are some new escalation in violence for the US and women are being targeted with heightened violence and assaults. What these women experienced could easily have been far worse."
and
"Side note: King Charles III has had eggs thrown at him twice in the past month….what’s your thought on that?"
06/12/2022 23:48 "Don’t be ridiculous, you’re only upset because it’s showing the shock & horror over a cream pie and an egg or two, is over-egging things a bit. You can decry violence while putting it into its proper perspective:"
07/12/2022 00:19 "Its all violence, but some violence is objectively worse than other violence so that’s not something I would say."
07/12/2022 10.22 "Im not dismissing any violence btw, Ive said it is all violence.
"It seems you are the only one dismissing violence by firstly neglecting to mention the greatest violence in Tacoma was done by women and when that is pointed out, you then go on to justify this violence because it was done by a woman." (Note: thereby stating that no woman should defend herself against a larger person's spitting after 4 minutes of being intimidated )
07/12/2022 10:50 "Of course all violence is unacceptable, but, yes I am uncomfortable with your attempt to portray a cream pie and a few eggs by calling it some “new norm” and implying that it is more violent than before- when over a dozen protesters have been killed at USA protests in since Covid, the vast majority of whom have been black men and women."
and
"So, yes it is my opinion that it is tone deaf to sit in the U.K. and demand the USA should express moral outrage over a few white women getting some whipped cream and egg yolk on them. The USA doesn’t see anything less than actual bodily harm (mace, punching, hitting) and death as violence. We do, but they do not. They do not count the wounded pride of white women having egg on their face."
and
"Yes, I am giving you backlash for caring more about white women with cream and egg on them than you care about minority men and women being beaten unconscious or murdered at USA protests.".
07/12/2022 16:50. "It was peaceful by US standards as no one was injured."
and
"I am bringing race into it because the optics of your initial posts are tone deaf to imply cream pies and eggs are some “new norm” of heightened violence"
and
"It’s not dismissing violence to state that cream pies and eggs are not as violent as being punched until unconscious, maced, shot and killed or rammed by a car and killed."
and
"one small protest in California met with a cream pie and eggs"
07/12/2022 17:07 "unlike many other peaceful protests, no one was injured or killed."
and
"I’m not saying don’t talk about it, it’s perfectly fine to talk about every protest and what happened at it. It’s ok to condemn all violence and call the cream pie and eggs out as unacceptable. What’s not ok is erasing the injuries and deaths of mostly minority peaceful protesters"
07/12/2022 17:39 "they lobbed food at women."
All because a thread was started about a group of about 10-15 diverse women protesting in California who were attacked while standing silently protesting.
I was unsurprised to read that post quoted attached to my post. It really is par for the course.
This apparently is ‘actual feminism’.