Kellie-Jay's New Political Party

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I can't see a thread on this, but she is starting a new party and will run in elections.

twitter.com/StandingforXX/status/1600235830475653123?s=20&t=hhlXpo7uErB4FlkFj1nSRA

www.theotherparty.co.uk

No-one is right or wrong.

You're wrong.

I suppose this was meant to be a fan thread full of adulation for KJK and a few of us saying hang on, she’s got serious red flags is killing the festive mood. 😂

Debate would be ace

’here’s a bunch of links that don’t say what I think they say, here’s me failing to engage with the fact that the behaviour I deplore in KJK is perfectly fine when exhibited by Julie Bindel, here’s me saying that the perfectly reasonable position of objecting to covering up little girls lest they make men lustful is racist’ is not debate

I didn’t realise what a god she was on here,

She isn't a god, many of us have followed her for years, and are tired of pussyfooting around the people who want to shut women up and their histrionics. She speaks to people. She provides a platform for ordinary women to speak about their lives and feelings about being female, and that is valuable, whatever sneery elitists think. I've met her several times. She's not the devil incarnate, she's an ordinary woman, flawed like we all are, who cares about the rights of other women and children.

@Onnabugeisha I'm interested to hear where KJK said she'd be prepared to sacrifice abortion. Can you share a link please?

You can say it, as you are.

It doesn’t mean it’s working to persuade other women.

I haven’t seen much to dissuade me that she’ll do well. I’m interested and care but also not up for more complexity - I want plain speaking and someone ready to expose the issues. She’ll do that imo and good on her.

Oh man

i thought I’d spoken to you all about Kier Starmer’s Labour Sex Fudge

NOT OK

You could, you know, read the thread. It’s been posted 3x on this thread how KJK is perfectly willing to sacrifice our abortion rights. This was her reply to the overturning of Roe v. Wade and the immediate roll out of abortion bans in several states. Is this someone you want in Parliament? Someone willing to pass a law banning abortion in return for what she wants? What kind of “feminist” is willing to throw millions of women and girls under the bus with forced birthing? Or die due to back alley illegal abortion attempts?

Noooo. It's like a worse version of the WBH!

You said KJK had a "shady history of working with the far right". That's an out and out lie

Its not a lie at all, someone above posted about 6 different links with evidence of people she has worked with on the far right and I’ve posted evidence of her trip to the USA where she worked with far right organisations.

You either accept the evidence and her own words that she doesn’t care who she works with, and accept that you’re happy with that because she does a good job at getting the message across. Or you accept it’s an issue for you also. You can’t just pretend it’s not true.

I have no issue with women here saying they still support her, despite her working with shady people as she gets the job done. I don’t agree with it personally but that’s your opinion and we all have our own line. I have issue with people pretending it just didn’t happen.

She doesn't have any red flags. She's an ordinary woman who has a genius for political campaigning. She's been effective in many ways already and we know she's going to get the message to a wider audience, so that's exciting.

You have nothing to add to the conversation except lies and nonsense we've heard a hundred times before. It's boring but I don't think there's any chance of you bringing anyone down, so don't worry.

The links do support what we’ve been saying.
And the hijab as religious wear has more meaning than that, your ignorance and islamaphobia is showing.

Its not a lie at all, someone above posted about 6 different links with evidence of people she has worked with on the far right and I’ve posted evidence of her trip to the USA where she worked with far right organisations.

That wasn't evidence. That was just links to people accusing KJK of things and accusing people KJK has spoken to of other things.

Sorry but I expect actual evidence to support your claims. Not just more claims being presented as evidence.

But as I say, keep it coming. Anyone reading this thread will be able to see exactly what your problem with KJK is.

the fact that the behaviour I deplore in KJK is perfectly fine when exhibited by Julie Bindel. None of us who have concerns about KJK have said anything nice or otherwise about JB. That’s just you engaging in whataboutery and is refusing to take the bait. That’s why our response has been this thread is about KJK not JB.

You unequivocally support dressing little girls in clothing that restricts their movement and has sexual implications? When little boys from the same communities aren’t constrained this way?

much feminism. How progressive

Obviously @beastlyslumber hasnt even clicked on the links!

Speaking as a left wing GC feminist, I think it's a shame more left wing women in the public eye don't speak up about this.

KJK may well be right leaning. The fact is this issue affects ALL women.

She's clearly unlikely to win. But getting it out there discussed in a public space can only be a good thing imo. Go KJK!!!

Was it not you who said that Julie Bindel would have been a much better person to do this? Or was that your mate NameChange?

There is no dispute she’s worked with shady far right organisations

Let's have a definition of "worked with". And "far right". She's appeared on some podcasts?

Honestly the majority of people either won't care or won't question or both. People fell for the NHS money bus crap during brexit. They voted for Boris despite the masses of actual true and concrete examples of racist sexist or other shitty things he had said and done.

Very few people are not going to vote for someone just because she may have once been filmed having a chat with someone questionable. I don't believe many people expect anyone -politicians especially- to be holier than thou, or care a jot if they aren't. Most people know little about politics and care even less.

Good on her. I hope she gets a lot of coverage and airtime and peaks many many people.

Give over a head scarf doesn’t restrict movement and you’re the one making it all about sex. Honestly, did you get your information about Islam from the EDL and HoO webpages? Oh, wait no you got it from KJK who is parroting their stuff….but she doesn’t know who they are or anything about them despite spending hours hanging out with key members, and praising them on SM.

Not whataboutery, perfectly valid request for clarification

you deplore KJK being interviewed by Benjamin Boyce (I think), do you also deplore Julie Bindel collaborating with Milo Yiannopoulos?

if not, what’s the difference?

No. Wasn’t me.

Oh I've seen them all before. The same things that you endlessly recycle on these threads.

It's all you've got, I know. Let's hope that KJK gets on Joe Rogan next. That will give you something else to froth about. New links to articles saying that KJK is a fascist for talking to someone who is not a fascist! It will be fun.

Why do you care? It’s obvious your standards are at the bottom of a mind shaft and any critical thinking is poo poo’d as engaging in purity politics.