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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Update the Equality Act to make clear the characteristic “sex” is biological sex

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Sidaway · 02/11/2022 12:44

There's an active petition you can sign to this effect, if you're so inclined.

I'm not sure if we're allowed to link to it directly? Anyway, if you enter this thread's title into Google, it should come up.

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ArtfullyCrumpled · 05/11/2022 11:42

Thanks @Ramblingnamechanger

HopRockers · 05/11/2022 12:28

Ramblingnamechanger · 05/11/2022 09:52

I put the link in AIBU.. not a lot of engagement but perhaps women are signing…

Found it!

ScrollingLeaves · 05/11/2022 14:52

Update the Equality Act to make clear the characteristic “sex” is biological sex

These are the key words to find the petition.

Women’s sex based spaces need protecting but can’t be when there is a confusion over the meaning of the word sex.

ScrollingLeaves · 05/11/2022 17:31

27,056 signatures so far
Google to sign if you wish:
Update the Equality Act to make clear the characteristic “sex” is biological sex

FemaleAndLearning · 05/11/2022 19:49

Would Sex Matters be allowed to put advert in newspapers?

HopRockers · 05/11/2022 20:34

FemaleAndLearning · 05/11/2022 19:49

Would Sex Matters be allowed to put advert in newspapers?

I wondered about that - would be happy to garden!

Enough4me · 05/11/2022 20:45

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/623243

ToFindNewWays · 05/11/2022 22:42

Bump 💪🏼

aseriesofstillimages · 05/11/2022 23:40

I haven’t read the whole thread so not sure if anyone else has already raised this, but how would ‘biological sex’ be defined in the legislation? By reference to chromosomes?

TheirEminence · 06/11/2022 06:26

Biological sex is not hard to define as there are two different reproductive pathways and humans are either on one or the other. Personally, I think attempts to derail the sex question by referring to people with DSDs have really run out of steam ...

Happylittlechicken · 06/11/2022 06:38

aseriesofstillimages · 05/11/2022 23:40

I haven’t read the whole thread so not sure if anyone else has already raised this, but how would ‘biological sex’ be defined in the legislation? By reference to chromosomes?

Haha no

ScrollingLeaves · 06/11/2022 07:53

Google to sign if you would like to:
Update the Equality Act to make clear the characteristic “sex” is biological sex

ErrolTheDragon · 06/11/2022 09:54

ScrollingLeaves · 06/11/2022 07:53

Google to sign if you would like to:
Update the Equality Act to make clear the characteristic “sex” is biological sex

Theres a link near the top of this thread a thread on the Petitions&Activism board which has the petition link in it.
(If anyone is confused by this roundabout route, it's simply MNHQ policy that petitions links can only exist on that board, as an anti spamming control)

LynneBenfield · 06/11/2022 10:42

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ErrolTheDragon · 06/11/2022 10:57

If you put petition links directly on this thread you risk it being moved to the Petitions and activism board where there are already threads. Can I suggest anyone who has done so reports their posts and asks MNHQ to remove those and leave this thread where it is, please?

(I don't make the rules, just seen too many people tripped up by this!)

LynneBenfield · 06/11/2022 11:00

Apologies will report my post

aseriesofstillimages · 06/11/2022 11:04

@Happylittlechicken @TheirEminence

Seriously though, what will it say? “Woman” means a person of any age who is biologically female?

Happylittlechicken · 06/11/2022 11:32

@aseriesofstillimages i would sincerely hope not. A woman is an adult human female. A female child is a girl. 0/10 for the derailing effort. Must try harder

aseriesofstillimages · 06/11/2022 11:42

Happylittlechicken · 06/11/2022 11:32

@aseriesofstillimages i would sincerely hope not. A woman is an adult human female. A female child is a girl. 0/10 for the derailing effort. Must try harder

you know that current definition of “woman” in the EA is “a female of any age”? The point being, presumably, that discrimination on the basis of sex is not limited to adults.

Happylittlechicken · 06/11/2022 11:46

True. So if you know the answer why are you asking?

aseriesofstillimages · 06/11/2022 11:57

Happylittlechicken · 06/11/2022 11:46

True. So if you know the answer why are you asking?

I know what the EA currently says, what I don’t know is what you are proposing it should be amended to say.

Happylittlechicken · 06/11/2022 12:00

errr. The clue is in the thread title…. I really really don’t know how you want it made clearer.

MForstater · 06/11/2022 12:05

Hello!

Thank you everyone who has signed. Please keep pushing this out to your friends and family.

Sex Matters has set up a "Petitions Champions" group which we will email with materials, ideas, encouragement etc... on the campaign (sign up at www.sex-matters.org )

Some text to use in an email or whatsapp .....

[Name] – Will you join me in signing this petition calling on the government to make clear that “sex” in the Equality Act means biological sex?

[LINK]

This is really important, because the Equality Act covers sex discrimination, single-sex services and sports.

It takes one minute to sign the petition and your name will not be made public.

Here is more information on the campaign: [LINK]

aseriesofstillimages · 06/11/2022 12:06

So, if the definition of “woman” is amended to refer to ‘biologically female” instead of just “female”, you think the courts will definitely interpret that in the way you want? Or would “biologically female” (and male) also need to be defined?

aseriesofstillimages · 06/11/2022 12:07

Hello @MForstater , you may be better placed to answer my question above?

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