Standing for women - Portland rally cancelled over violent threats

[ArabellaScott]

Not quite sure what's happened - seems there were credible threats to women's lives over these protests.

twitter.com/StandingforXX

Now it seems a few women went ahead and met up and were attacked. (Nobody seriously hurt as far as I can tell)

twitter.com/ReduxxMag/status/1585012546766966784

Hoping everyone is safe and well.

Fine. What are you all doing in the feminism board then talking about her then? Can we have the feminism board back for actual feminism?

Oh my God, this is just too dense.

Stop looking at what Posie is doing, stop listening to her, she's the devil incarnate!

Same person: Well, no-one's looking at her anyway.

So, is your logic that because Julie Bindel is very critical of KJK (was it Bindel who compared her to dog shit ? ) that therefore KJK is a racist for saying the exact same thing that Bindel said and did not get called a racist for?

Of course! That question has already been asked and answered by MNHQ.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/feminism

happy to oblige.

This is actually the Sex and Gender board.

If you want the 'other' feminism board, it is that way =>

@datun I know anyone can post here. But these days I see precious little feminism here. It as if the dog house has been taken over by people talking about cats ll the time and whenever anyone complains they say the cats are clear they are not dogs so what is the issue.

Plenty on the other board about this as well.

This is a spin off board. The feminist chat board is still there. This is specifically about sex and gender and women's rights in relation to that.

Many women see this as a vital issue and this is the place they talk about it. You're actually coming onto the cats protection league to complain we're not talking about dogs.

There is a board entirely devoted to what you want to talk about. Perhaps you didn't know that?

So.

Another empty accusation based on no provided evidence.

In fact the very first reason could very well mean that all those feminists making the exact same argument are now racist.

I could go and look them up. I am pretty sure that I posted links to several other feminists (I think even Doc Stock) when this very accusation was discussed from that Brighton Feminists website 'sin list' for KJK.

Strangely, the person who posted it proudly as evidence of sins could also not quite understand why it was vile bullying to have such a page on their website.

antelopevalley

Are you a "feminist" I have not seen you post a whole lot on things other than gender. I am not a "feminist" but am concerned about the erosion of protection for vulnerable women and girls. As far as I know MN is quite happy for me to use this board to discuss issues around safeguarding.

One, possibly two threads out of all of them. This board is specifically about sex and gender.

I am a feminist, the old-fashioned kind. The kind who cares about all women. The kind who is anti-racist and rejects anti-immigrant dog whistles.

apolologies antelope

i did not read that properly AT ALL 🥺

So what.

So it is not something you wish to discuss, scroll on by.

The fact that it is being discussed, that there is a US tour on at the moment and therefore a huge amount of content is generated, is an indication of just how many people are interested in it.

If you are not interested in it. If you have nothing by empty accusations to post, you don't have to be posting on any of the fucking threads. But you are clearly in the minority and you very obviously don't like being in that minority.

If you are getting some kind of rush from shaming women who do want to discuss it, that is another issue for you to deal with personally.

hands up all those who also identify that way.

me!

So go and start your own threads. And stop posting on threads you are supposedly not interested in. It is a very easy choice to make.

There must be, quite literally billions of people you could be talking about then!

Instead of a tiny blonde woman, talking about something you're not interested in, in another country, being listened to by, according to you, a few dozen people.

Do you really, honestly, think people regard your posts as motivated by anything other than to shut her down?

🙋🏻‍♂️

You seem very, very keen to be controlling what other women want to talk about.

If you want to go start a thread of your own go on.

But the more you try and police what other women are doing the more it makes you look, well, like a mens' rights activist.

What has it got to do with you exactly what other women say or do? You are not the boss.

I am a feminist, the old-fashioned kind. The kind who cares about all women. The kind who is anti-racist and rejects anti-immigrant dog whistles.

So what are your views on vulnerable women being asked to share prison cells or personal spaces with people with penis'. Or of confused, perhaps autistic, girls being given life changing drugs or surgery without avenues other than dysphoria being examined carefully. Or be-penised people having a known advantage if they are allowed to play women's sport, indeed sometimes posing a physical threat to women.

Feminism is a label. Nice that you identify as a feminist, but what are your views on the key safeguarding concerns created by this gender stuff. When there is a clash of rights, do you thing women or transpeople should take priority.

🖐me too! The old fashioned, cunty kind. I would like tw to be happy too, but not at the expense of women and children. Tm are automatically included because they're women.

Instead of a tiny blonde woman, talking about something you're not interested in, in another country, being listened to by, according to you, a few dozen people.

It is wonderful just how many supposed feminists spend their time on this board shaming other women.

And yet, this is a complete disconnect that they truly cannot comprehend. It was like back when they told us:

You are the minority - yet every single poll on AIBU that pulled in huge numbers was overwhelmingly agreeing with our points. Sometimes 98% but most of the time over 90%. But - we were the minority.

You are the dinosaurs and will die out - yet now there are so many young women posting videos on TikTok that agree with us. Oh no.... it seems that was wrong also.

You are the intolerant ones - yet how many protests have to be poorly conceived (I mean, really, smoke bombs let off at Grenfell!) or violent, how many calls for cancelling or deplatforming have to happen before 'tolerant' has been shown to have been made to be an antonym of what it used to mean.

But according to some posters, there are SOOOOO many threads discussing this, make it stop, can we discuss something else (what, so we can be shamed on another topic??? Why the fuck would we want to change the topic only to have the same posters just continue to shame us on that thread as well?? [exploding brain emoji]).

Yet, the same posters want to make out that it is irrelevant, that those women in the USA don't actually care and are so gullible that they will take any muppet's (a general 'muppet' not any muppet in particular) smearing tactic as being legitimate when the muppet's own group is assaulting, screaming, yelling, spitting and intimidating women. That it is so irrelevant to women, yet there are too many threads and posts about it.

The dissonance must be fucking huge to keep writing posts like that.

Yes, I'd like to see that addressed. Because the political viewpoints of a security firm hired by a woman that poster doesn't care about seems to be more important.

www.theargus.co.uk/news/19124788.amp/

Oh look! Ali Ceesay in a photo with Lloyd Russell-Moyle. And the article says she walked away with him.

How about that !!! That she used the 'services' of Moyle despite the vile things he says!

Oh no! She obviously gives him her 100% support and must be 100% aligned with him.

Shall I find more feminists who appear in pictures with people who must be denounced?

Silly string and custard pies are bad - pepper spray is worse.

www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/article267901542.html