Kellie-Jay Keen (AKA Posie Parker) appreciation thread

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I just love this woman! She undoubtedly has the Midas touch when it comes to marketing and publicity.

I have been to several of her events over the years, and she has time for each and every woman who comes to see her.

Any other fans here?

KJK said this in her YT video yesterday. Used these words figuratively not literally, to say she would not let women (who I take to be the head girl feminists who have relentlessly criticised her) stand in her way of protecting women, that she will not be led by them or let them stop her getting her message out and working with whom she needs/wants to. It's been taken completely out of context by IW. Her words were not addressed to trans women at all. They are addressed to the women who caused her grief over her Brighton event, for which she is continuing to be hassled by the police. The words spoken in the attached video, watch from around 11 minutes.

Yeah it's not used in the literal sense but, paraphrasing here, in the I'll see you all in my rear view mirror as I carry on towards the winning line whilst you enter your purity spirals of the wrong sort of woman woman.

And the one about hiring gunmen to hut trans down?

Fuck me, I've seen Kellie Jay angry, but I don't think I've ever seen her this incandescent.

She's channelling every woman who goes through life, engaging in their day to day routine, carries on as normal, and then they hear something or read something and WHAM, it fucking hits them all over again.

The sheer, unadulterated, woman hating madness that has been allowed to flourish, unfettered across the board.

That we are in the year 2023, and rapists are being given access to vulnerable women as part of their jail sentence because they want it, that children are being told sex isn't real, and that women are being arrested for saying lesbians don't fucking have penises.

Watching these bloody crackpots who are supposed to be running countries saying they don't know the sex of a man who has been convicted of raping two women. And getting antsy for being ask the bloody question!

it's a collective insanity that is difficult to believe.

Was that in the latest video? Or from somewhere else? I was distracted with a vomiting cat so may have missed that one?

Honestly I agree with her. I am SO over a clique of women claiming they are on women's side, behaving like TRA and constantly attacking her and pulling things out of context and making up the weirdest shit.

I've noticed on my twitter account that some have blocked me because I called them out on their lies about KJK.

If you are so delusional that you think you are helping women when the only thing you can to is whine on twitter and make shit up about a woman that is so succesful in bringing our message, blocking your own allies, then you aren't standing up for women. You are standing in the way. Shut up, get with the program or get left behind in the mud.

I am over the pettyness. I am over the lying and the drama.

I am also over all the women who still think they need to be polite. There are male rapists locked up with women in prison. How much worse does it need to get for them to get it?!

Fuck me, I've seen Kellie Jay angry, but I don't think I've ever seen her this incandescent

I generally dont follow video links, ive never seen a KJK video til yesterday when i watched 5 minutes of the above

but yep thats one furious women, and i dont blame her at all…especially when i read a bit of indias twitter and saw indias comments to the police

she kept it together though….my rants tend to be sweary and throwy and occasionally punchy

KJK is due to go on an Australian tour very soon. This latest action by the police (asking her to report to her local police station or risk arrest) potentially puts that tour in jeopardy, as they can stop her leaving the country. I don't think she actually knows what she's been accused of saying by way of "hate speech" yet. This allegedly happened in Brighton in September and it's now February, and she's still none the wiser. There's a good chance this action has been instigated by women who identify as feminists. She has every right to be incandescent. I really hope Dennis Kavanagh or some other clever lawyer has her back.

I put my hand up. I use ‘male people’. Sometimes it is necessary to strip away the confusion that using ‘men’ can cause. And Because I want my words to not be deleted. I could choose to leave MN or I can choose to post with in the guidelines.

It’s ok though. Because I can support KJK still and disagree with her. 😁

Just want to say a great job to Kellie-Jay for organising the Glasgow letwomenspeak event. So many people showed up! Thank you to all who came!

Just adding these - all from Twitter.

Well done to KJK and team!

Posie did a fantastic job in Glasgow. More power to her elbow.

Boiledbeetle · 03/02/2023 23:58

• And the one about hiring gunmen to hut trans down?

Was that in the latest video? Or from somewhere else? I was distracted with a vomiting cat so may have missed that one?

I think it was in a Twatter link, I can't see it now.

Amazing photos! Wish I'd been there! Perfect timing for this event - and if there's anyone who knows how to make the most of luck and timing, it's Posie

It’s a ‘choose for your audience’ situation at the moment, I reckon!

I love that one. She is the bestest.

I put my hand up. I use ‘male people’. Sometimes it is necessary to strip away the confusion that using ‘men’ can cause. And Because I want my words to not be deleted. I could choose to leave MN or I can choose to post with in the guidelines.

Exactly this.

In her very appropriate rage, KJK actually describes the type of abuse men often do to their female partners but using the police, DARVO.

I'll use males and male people, especially here as those words are often absent from conversations discussing trans identities.

And are more grounded in concrete reality, anatomical terms

There is something so powerful about the truth, though. Saying "that's a man" has an impact that "male person" doesn't. Obviously that's heavily context-dependant.

I try not to get my posts deleted from here, but in real life I try to speak the truth as plainly as I can.

Agree; do think it's contextually dependent.

For some "man" includes all the gender stereotypes. So they can get slightly confused as to who you are talking about esp if unclear on biological elements.

Male and female are more linked to medical contexts (which is v important here) and 'male violence' is a common phrase. So sometimes useful in longer discussions and debates. Especially if the audience or debater isn't sure of all the ins and outs. Or mn.

Saying "that's a man" is though very powerful in visual contexts and definitely was v useful in the prison discussions.

'Men who think / pretend they're women' is also v powerful.

Man/woman are nouns and male/female are adjectives, isn’t that right? It is a long time since I was at school. As KJK says the word woman conveys three pieces of information adult, human and female. Male/female is only one piece of information, adult/juvenile and species are left out.

I’m just using the words I have always used in the way I have always used them and aiming to avoid jargon. So I go with man and woman, and man who believes he is a woman or wishes he could be a woman and vice versa. For me there is a relief and sense of freedom in speaking as plainly as I can, even if I end up using more words to do it. I also strive not to be offensive but only to use plain English.

Just pausing to reflect that here we are, trying to explain that women are not being offensive to say that men are men, and in looking at the Guardian's disastrous tweet about 'any woman want to share misogyny', have just seen this. This is what emanates from a cesspit of misogyny, this is what the 'other side of this debate' looks like.

Every so often I think I've seen it all. And then I'm physically sickened to discover new depths.

twitter.com/HackneyTerven/status/1622668080982761473

I don't want that in my head or on my hard drive. But I am going to have to, in order to have this to put up every time some absolute fuckwit comes here bleating about women not being naice and kind enough.