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Kellie-Jay Keen (AKA Posie Parker) appreciation thread

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TotallyTERF · 25/10/2022 18:35

I just love this woman! She undoubtedly has the Midas touch when it comes to marketing and publicity.

I have been to several of her events over the years, and she has time for each and every woman who comes to see her.

Any other fans here?

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Helleofabore · 21/01/2023 13:23

nilsmousehammer · 21/01/2023 12:38

I particularly liked the anger at women refusing to see male people as anything other than male.

Yes, that would be the entire point. Sex matters in the issues women are discussing here. There is no point at which a male person stops being male and some women needing sex based services need single sex provision. On a sex based basis. That this inconveniences some males and is perceived by some as unkind to mention?

Doesn't really make those issues for females go away.

Not to mention that a male coming onto a women's rights forum to argue specifically with women who want equality of rights? Is already of the sex based opinion that one sex should always be prioritised and the other sex should always serve them. Nicely. With soft voices. And if they're very good and explain their issues very politely and kindly with the right kind of evidence then Daddy might think about listening to them.

yes.

The anger that males can only ever be male is palpable!

CorvusPurpureus · 21/01/2023 13:25

Helleofabore · 21/01/2023 12:36

Archive ph with the url for the plate entered into search

Got it - thanks @helleofabore. The pomposity! 😁

Boiledbeetle · 21/01/2023 14:09

I’m actually supposed to be doing some work but I’m procrastinating so…

I’ve just been on the internet outside of mumsnet, I know who knew that existed?

Anyway I came across an interesting post, I won’t link it, I’ll just send telepathic womanly thoughts to you all as to what post and where you can find it……..Got it? Good.

Anyway my thoughts

It starts with being here was to understand us better, feels that’s been accomplished and will now move onto something more worthwhile. (Obviously we weren’t deemed worthy enough, oh the shame, how will we live with the shame?).

The writer inadvertently reveals that he assumes we should always centre men with his first bullet point. Yet he also reveals that he personally doesn’t even consider female to male presenting trans people in his thought processes at all.

He completely ignores the fact that as a group, (I apologise for assuming we have a hive mind, but he does so…) that we here always centre transmen, i.e. women, in our woman centring way of thought.

He thinks we should discount the one is too many idea we have because ‘scale’ and ‘moral panic’. So the man should get to decide what number women consider is an acceptable amount of women to be raped in a prison etc. Our obvious choice of none is not acceptable to the man. So we must change our requirements.

We lack grace and kindness. Why should they be qualities I want to aspire to? I’ve never wanted to be fucking graceful. And I’ve never subscribed to the whole be kind stuff so I’m sure as hell not about to start now just because some man on the internet doesn’t like my tone. If he doesn’t like my tone he can take himself off away from me. It’s not my job to make sure his needs and wants are met.

He acknowledges that people ‘shrieking’ at vulnerable minorities is always going to look nasty and fascist, yet directs that comment at us as the shriekers, rather than the fact that it’s actually been the men screaming in women’s faces, throwing things in women’s faces, stalking women, shouting slurs at women.

There is an ageist comment thrown in using disparaging language just to put us in our place that little bit more.

We are apparently not willing to engage in debate around safeguarding other than banning men from female spaces (he actually uses the words “all transgender people” again forgetting that we have no issue with the transmen as they are women).

A final insult throw of extremism is lobbed at us before he leaves hoping we’ve enjoyed and learnt from his posts!

Now of course this isn’t connected to this thread at all. It’s just about some random comment I found on the internet.

Helleofabore · 21/01/2023 14:13

You nailed it though Boiled.

Boiledbeetle · 21/01/2023 14:14

Helleofabore · 21/01/2023 14:13

You nailed it though Boiled.

the telepathy womanly skills. yeah I know. its a skill that men will never possess!!!

WomanXXWorldsOriginsofMothersofAllNations · 21/01/2023 14:34

Aww wee man child put down for a nap. Lovely.

I’m here for the 16th March (Adelaide) updates. I’m booking the Thursday and Friday off work, and I’m hoping to persuade a young ‘JKR is an awful person’ to join me. We know we are ‘opposites’ but we are both willing to listen.

This is why KJK is amazing - me and my mate are separated by age and idolatry but we like each other and I reckon if anyone can ‘talk’ to my friend it’s KJK.

Her passion burns so bright.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 21/01/2023 16:25

aw, I missed a flounce

not my favourite type :-(

I prefer it when they completely lose it and are frothingly abusive (I understand that this is probably a personality flaw). it means we've properly broken them

there's always next time though

Ereshkigalangcleg · 21/01/2023 16:30

There is an ageist comment thrown in using disparaging language just to put us in our place that little bit more.

I think the implication was that we're all going to die off soon, being so very old.

CorvusPurpureus · 21/01/2023 19:10

If I thought I was going to pop off soon enough to keep the 'Decapitate Difficult Women' mob happy, I'd be going 10 more levels of batshit angry trying to stop them from destroying my daughters' future.

I'm confident I'll live to see this nonsense off. I give it 2 more years before everyone pretends they were definitely not in that photograph.

Boiledbeetle · 21/01/2023 19:16

until recently I've always felt sad that teenagers etc will have to live with their youthful stupidity resurfacing on on this date feeds forever more.

However after the decapitate Terfs sign I'm currently having little sympathy for the fact that this lots transgressions as young people will follow them around the internet forever.

tough shit.

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 21/01/2023 22:53

If Owen Jones doesn't think he's at risk of imminent death and fossilisation, then nor am I, as I'm younger than him.

TheClogLady · 21/01/2023 22:59

The State Media did a little edit, by the end he sounds like Penfold from Danger Mouse.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=0OibeIxXbIw

MadameDefargetheBoiledbeetleversion · 22/01/2023 00:15

@TheClogLady whenever I'm reading him that's how i imagine him speaking anyway! I obviously wasn't the only one.

He's just so whhhiiiiiiiny

MadameDefargetheBoiledbeetleversion · 22/01/2023 00:16

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 21/01/2023 22:53

If Owen Jones doesn't think he's at risk of imminent death and fossilisation, then nor am I, as I'm younger than him.

But but but you're supposed to be over fifty and post menopausal with saggy tits.

You mean you're not.

Bitch.

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 22/01/2023 00:21

That was an eerie channeling of OJ there. I'm convinced I have stronger abs than him as well, after the last shirtless selfie he posted on twitter. It'll be my manual labour job. Better for muscle development than being a youtuber, although less well paid.

MadameDefargetheBoiledbeetleversion · 22/01/2023 00:25

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 22/01/2023 00:21

That was an eerie channeling of OJ there. I'm convinced I have stronger abs than him as well, after the last shirtless selfie he posted on twitter. It'll be my manual labour job. Better for muscle development than being a youtuber, although less well paid.

I though it was a passable impression, it's hard to convey a screwed up face and spittle through the medium of a chat box with limited 😔 options.

I used to have more muscles than him, but my manual labour days are very much behind me. Now i could swipe him a good left book just with my bingo wings and saggy tits!

MadameDefargetheBoiledbeetleversion · 22/01/2023 00:27

Hook, but actually a good left book would be better. Maybe Trans by Helen Joyce

OneMorePlant · 22/01/2023 20:22

have you thought about being kind

I'm a bit late but would like all the men to know that being kind is over, it's dead, it's been cremated and never coming back.

It's Hells Fury o'clock.

Boiledbeetle · 22/01/2023 20:34

OneMorePlant · 22/01/2023 20:22

have you thought about being kind

I'm a bit late but would like all the men to know that being kind is over, it's dead, it's been cremated and never coming back.

It's Hells Fury o'clock.

Yeah decapitate Terfs i think ended the tiny residual bit of be kind left in a lot of people i think!

And now it's time to move on to NO DEBATE.

Years of waiting to hear what they have to say. Well yesterday I heard it loud and clear. They want us dead. So they can fuck off! The minimising being done about those signs. Those politicians and everyone that was there who didn't see or didn't think that there was anything wrong can go fuck themselves.

Helleofabore · 22/01/2023 21:31

Well considering the ‘guilt by association’ accusations about KJK, I can only suggest that those accusers can now expect the MPs in front of ‘decapitate terfs’ etc every single time.

Oh. And all the TRA tweets that made jokes. Particularly the one who tweeted the direct threats to run a car into the Glasgow standing for women rally.

Oh … wasn’t that the same one who posted a threat to Joanne Rowling too, or am I mistaken?

And what about that one who posted that KJK needs to get her mates the Proud Boys to protect her!

All just jokes!!!

Yeah, I suspect the guilt by association will be quiet for a while. (No wonder there was the flounce!!! Imagine trying that tactic after this weekend!)

Boiledbeetle · 22/01/2023 21:35

@Helleofabore it's funny isn't it, all our usual visitors have either flounced or suddenly had stuff none internet related to do or tried plopping a few comments that have completely missed their mark and then they've slunk off.

Wonder why

beastlyslumber · 23/01/2023 09:30

Strange, that. I'm sure they'll be back sooner or later, with different names (and the same nonsense.)

FOJN · 23/01/2023 11:15

Helleofabore · 22/01/2023 21:31

Well considering the ‘guilt by association’ accusations about KJK, I can only suggest that those accusers can now expect the MPs in front of ‘decapitate terfs’ etc every single time.

Oh. And all the TRA tweets that made jokes. Particularly the one who tweeted the direct threats to run a car into the Glasgow standing for women rally.

Oh … wasn’t that the same one who posted a threat to Joanne Rowling too, or am I mistaken?

And what about that one who posted that KJK needs to get her mates the Proud Boys to protect her!

All just jokes!!!

Yeah, I suspect the guilt by association will be quiet for a while. (No wonder there was the flounce!!! Imagine trying that tactic after this weekend!)

The fact that our ploppers have not taken the time to come and condemn the events of this weekend is all the evidence I need to confirm that they do not believe in guilt by association and they are very happy with women they don't agree with being threatened with violence.

They are not people whose political opinions I give a single shiny shit about, they are supporters of violent misogyny.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 23/01/2023 11:17

I'm a bit late but would like all the men to know that being kind is over, it's dead, it's been cremated and never coming back.

💯

nilsmousehammer · 23/01/2023 15:11

Ereshkigalangcleg · 23/01/2023 11:17

I'm a bit late but would like all the men to know that being kind is over, it's dead, it's been cremated and never coming back.

💯

Quite.

In fact it's so dead that there's a group of lumberjacks singing.