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Kellie-Jay Keen (AKA Posie Parker) appreciation thread

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TotallyTERF · 25/10/2022 18:35

I just love this woman! She undoubtedly has the Midas touch when it comes to marketing and publicity.

I have been to several of her events over the years, and she has time for each and every woman who comes to see her.

Any other fans here?

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Helleofabore · 21/01/2023 10:01

EastLondonObserver · 21/01/2023 09:50

Worrying about a cis woman rugby player getting concussed by a trans player is a waste of time. Whose to say the trans person will necessarily be any bigger and stronger anyway. There are some hefty women rugby players out there.

And if you followed the science at all, you would know that even an average size male will have aspects to their physicality that will outperform ‘hefty’ female players.

For instance, average males have faster twitch muscles and can run faster, jump higher than the average female. And are taller for speed and leverage.

That combination means tackles and collisions are likely to be harder than the expected power from a female opponent. Then you have to account for the more delicate brain nerve fibres in women, regardless of their ‘heft’. This means a double whammy. Not only a more powerful tackle or collision but greater susceptibility to injury.

That doesn’t then include any discussion about the general injury risk with menstruation that has been known but now is being studied.

And why do you try to portray these male people as being ‘tiny’ compared to a hefty’ female player?

As usual your posts are not only dishonest, misogynistic, but also rather uninformed.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 21/01/2023 10:05

MargaritaPie · 21/01/2023 00:00

“He had a megaphone and the whole crowd was cheering when he was called a fascist"

Good to hear the whole crowd was on the side of LGBT rights, and not the haters and violent men.

Ooooo

who shoukd have been arrested at the KJK rally when the lady quoted mein kampf and why???

please and thank you

(no one ever answers any questions….i always answer even if ive no idea of the answer)

NecessaryScene · 21/01/2023 10:05

Whose to say the trans person will necessarily be any bigger and stronger anyway.

I want to play Rugby Top Trumps with ELO - I'll take an all-male deck, and ELO can have an all-female one.

Equal stakes on that, ELO?

EastLondonObserver · 21/01/2023 10:06

Helleofabore · 21/01/2023 10:01

And if you followed the science at all, you would know that even an average size male will have aspects to their physicality that will outperform ‘hefty’ female players.

For instance, average males have faster twitch muscles and can run faster, jump higher than the average female. And are taller for speed and leverage.

That combination means tackles and collisions are likely to be harder than the expected power from a female opponent. Then you have to account for the more delicate brain nerve fibres in women, regardless of their ‘heft’. This means a double whammy. Not only a more powerful tackle or collision but greater susceptibility to injury.

That doesn’t then include any discussion about the general injury risk with menstruation that has been known but now is being studied.

And why do you try to portray these male people as being ‘tiny’ compared to a hefty’ female player?

As usual your posts are not only dishonest, misogynistic, but also rather uninformed.

how many transgender people play women's rugby??

Helleofabore · 21/01/2023 10:06

ExiledElsie · 21/01/2023 09:56

How many women have been concussed by transgender players?

dont be silly - it’s obviously a tiny problem, if, indeed it even exists at all.

Given the above:

How many men's feelings have been hurt by being excluded from women's sports?

Who cares? It's a tiny number so not an issue worth worrying about.

This is true too.

The hypocrisy writ large in ‘it is a tiny number so why the concern about women being raped’ to ‘it is a tiny number so just give them what they want’.

Validation of males over safety of females = misogyny.

Helleofabore · 21/01/2023 10:07

EastLondonObserver · 21/01/2023 10:06

how many transgender people play women's rugby??

More than 1.

EastLondonObserver · 21/01/2023 10:07

Helleofabore · 21/01/2023 10:06

This is true too.

The hypocrisy writ large in ‘it is a tiny number so why the concern about women being raped’ to ‘it is a tiny number so just give them what they want’.

Validation of males over safety of females = misogyny.

have you thought about being kind

DarkDayforMN · 21/01/2023 10:08

how many transgender people play women's rugby??

probably not that many, so banning them won’t do any harm.

Helleofabore · 21/01/2023 10:09

EastLondonObserver · 21/01/2023 10:07

have you thought about being kind

Why?

What does that matter?

Do you think you are kind?

DarkDayforMN · 21/01/2023 10:09

have you thought about being kind

Yes! I believe in being kind to vulnerable women prisoners, do you?

NecessaryScene · 21/01/2023 10:18

probably not that many, so banning them won’t do any harm.

Not that it's even a ban - they can still play on the male teams, just like any other male can. They just don't get a special privilege.

The effect on them is tiny.

(They may not even be at a competitive disadvantage from being in the male classification - whose to say the male players will necessarily be any bigger and stronger anyway. There are some hefty women rugby players out there. 😉)

DialSquare · 21/01/2023 10:22

Surely ELO is a GC plant. He's certainly doing our job for us.

EastLondonObserver · 21/01/2023 10:23

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teawamutu · 21/01/2023 10:24

EastLondonObserver · 21/01/2023 10:07

have you thought about being kind

OK, this has to be a spoof account trying out all the TRA bingo lines.

Has to be.

ExiledElsie · 21/01/2023 10:27

have you thought about being kind

I know this is just sea-lioning so I should ignore, but hey, I'm procrastinating,

Yes, yes we are being kind to women. There is zero kindness towards women to pretend a man can be a woman.

There is also no kindness in telling a man that anyone sees them as a woman or believes they are a woman.

Kindness towards people is doing what is best for them and best for society. Hence we need to say "no" to men when they want to enter spaces for women.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 21/01/2023 10:34

Thanks all, I hope you enjoyed and learnt too from my contributions

no

plus most of your last post was rubbish…fwr is not a hive mind

teawamutu · 21/01/2023 10:37

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 21/01/2023 10:34

Thanks all, I hope you enjoyed and learnt too from my contributions

no

plus most of your last post was rubbish…fwr is not a hive mind

I've had a giggle with the last couple of posts, and it has reinforced the utter paucity of the TRA arguments.

Does that count?

DialSquare · 21/01/2023 10:37

Don't let the door hit your arse on the way out (look at me being kind!)

ExiledElsie · 21/01/2023 10:50

What was ELO's last post deleted for? I read it and sighed at the ridiculous suggestion that we haven't heard all this before, but was it genuinely too offensive to stand?

SinnerBoy · 21/01/2023 10:50

EastLondonObserver · Today 10:07

have you thought about being kind

Have you? And have you thought about not being a misogynistic tosser?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 21/01/2023 10:52

I want to play Rugby Top Trumps with ELO - I'll take an all-male deck, and ELO can have an all-female one.

Equal stakes on that, ELO?

Yes, why not take Necessary up on that.

DarkDayforMN · 21/01/2023 10:53

Did I miss a flounce post? I’m disappointed!

I’m sure he’ll be back under a new name anyway. First rule of flouncing.

NecessaryScene · 21/01/2023 10:56

Did I miss a flounce post? I’m disappointed!

You'll find it archived in the usual places. It was a rather pompous "advice" letter to us lot.

Boiledbeetle · 21/01/2023 10:59

DarkDayforMN · 21/01/2023 10:53

Did I miss a flounce post? I’m disappointed!

I’m sure he’ll be back under a new name anyway. First rule of flouncing.

It was a lovely example of oh shit I pushed it a tiny bit too far with my dismissal of women in my last few posts, so I shall pretend I'm bored with them now and leave them a few sage words on which to think.

Silly little women.

But more wordy.

DarkDayforMN · 21/01/2023 11:06

You'll find it archived in the usual places. It was a rather pompous "advice" letter to us lot.

HA. I just read it, thanks. Love that he’s giving us advice about how to win over the masses with better communication. Because the people love a pompous windbag.

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