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Kellie-Jay Keen (AKA Posie Parker) appreciation thread

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TotallyTERF · 25/10/2022 18:35

I just love this woman! She undoubtedly has the Midas touch when it comes to marketing and publicity.

I have been to several of her events over the years, and she has time for each and every woman who comes to see her.

Any other fans here?

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Datun · 20/01/2023 22:21

EastLondonObserver · 20/01/2023 19:26

Lol - cos only women answer tweets, emails and take calls while ‘presenting’. Turn on and talk radio show.

Lol, yeah, but they're not endlessly quoted on and invited to rival radio stations, or sky tv, or Fox News or being quoted in the newspapers and having umpteen support threads written about them and living entirely rent free in your head, driving you bonkersss, are they?

You should charge her for the space she takes up in your imagination, you'd make a fortune!

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 20/01/2023 22:51

If rapists in women's prisons are a "tiny issue", can someone explain to me how many rapes a male adult may commit outside prison before it's worthy of official attention? I've got a feeling I know the answer, mind.

Empowermenomore · 20/01/2023 23:02

Watched her reply to OJ or Talcum something and I felt inspired.
Felt unnerved a little at first with her fiery passion, but when she got going it was really spirited to hear what a win for OJ will look like. She is a champion of women’s rights!

… as the banner says Right side of History my Arse!

MargaritaPie · 20/01/2023 23:40

www.theargus.co.uk/news/23261934.chef-grabbed-mans-testicles-kellie-jay-keen-talk-brighton/

One of Kellie's supporters convicted of assault at one of her hate events

Boiledbeetle · 20/01/2023 23:44

MargaritaPie · 20/01/2023 23:40

www.theargus.co.uk/news/23261934.chef-grabbed-mans-testicles-kellie-jay-keen-talk-brighton/

One of Kellie's supporters convicted of assault at one of her hate events

The same supporter that turned up to the rally as a trans Rights Supporter. That guy?

RoseslnTheHospital · 20/01/2023 23:45

MargaritaPie · 20/01/2023 23:40

www.theargus.co.uk/news/23261934.chef-grabbed-mans-testicles-kellie-jay-keen-talk-brighton/

One of Kellie's supporters convicted of assault at one of her hate events

Again?? RTFT Pie, once again that's already been plopped and done. No I won't summarise for you.

MargaritaPie · 20/01/2023 23:47

Boiledbeetle · 20/01/2023 23:44

The same supporter that turned up to the rally as a trans Rights Supporter. That guy?

No, he's a hate-rights supporter.

Boiledbeetle · 20/01/2023 23:56

MargaritaPie · 20/01/2023 23:47

No, he's a hate-rights supporter.

As Helle said this morning

Helleofabore · Today 12:41

Awww! Nice try Graysmouse

KJK supporter prosecuted for assault at Brighton event

www.theargus.co.uk/news/23261934.chef-grabbed-mans-testicles-kellie-jay-keen-talk-brighton/

This is the man that was over listening to the extreme trans rights activists? Wasn't he there trying to work out what both sides were saying? It is absolutely right that he has been fined. But I think that this too is really quite important to note:

“The complainant admits he called Mr Thomas a fascist,” Mr Mackrell said.

“He had a megaphone and the whole crowd was cheering when he was called a fascist.

So, this man responded with violence to being bullied by the person that had their testicles squeezed.

See, another media source describes the man as a trans activist.

www.brightonandhovenews.org/2023/01/18/trans-activist-fined-for-grabbing-mans-testicles-at-demo/

And the Daily Mail said he 'switched sides' to support Standing for Women.

Thomas said that he had initially joined the counter rally of trans rights activists but decided to move over to Keen's side after hearing her speak.

and

After the hearing, Thomas said: 'I was on one side but I switched sides when they started calling me a fascist and a penis predator.

'The other side just sounded a bit more sensible. They were saying people who were born men shouldn't go to a women's prison and that made more sense to me.'

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11649559/Chef-grabbed-trans-rights-activists-testicles-Kellie-Jay-Keen-rally-pay-victim-75.html

Or is this not quite what you wanted to discuss with your post. Welcome to Mumsnet by the way! Cracking first post! A real discussion starter.

MargaritaPie · 21/01/2023 00:00

“He had a megaphone and the whole crowd was cheering when he was called a fascist"

Good to hear the whole crowd was on the side of LGBT rights, and not the haters and violent men.

MargaritaPie · 21/01/2023 00:02

"They were saying people who were born men shouldn't go to a women's prison and that made more sense to me"

Just a reminder this has nothing to do with Scotland's GRA. Prisons decide on a case by case basis.

Kellie-Jay Keen (AKA Posie Parker) appreciation thread
Boiledbeetle · 21/01/2023 00:25

@MargaritaPie

Trans activist fined for grabbing man’s testicles at demo is the heading of the article in the Brighton and hove news.

It says

A trans activist grabbed a man’s testicles and squeezed them during a row at a women’s rights rally in Brighton.

Craig Thomas, 50, joined a protest AGAINST the Let Women Speak event in Victoria Gardens on September 18 last year.

Today, he was fined £100 by Brighton magistrates after pleading guilty to assaulting Oliver Waterhouse.

The court heard Mr Waterhouse, a sound engineer, had been arguing with Thomas before the attack, using a megaphone to call him a fascist.

From the mail article

Mr Waterhouse was cheered by a section of the crowd when he shouted 'fascist' at Thomas through a megaphone, shortly before the assault.

Thomas was fined a total of £328 by magistrates in the seaside city.

After the hearing, Thomas said: 'I was on one side but I switched sides when they started calling me a fascist and a penis predator.

'The other side just sounded a bit more sensible. They were saying people who were born men shouldn't go to a women's prison and that made more sense to me.'

Ms Wootton said. 'Mr Thomas became aggressive towards Mr Waterhouse and there was an exchange of views.

'Both were being antagonistic. Mr Thomas grabbed the complainant's testicles, squeezed and pulled them causing Mr Waterhouse excruciating pain and he fell to the ground.

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So, Both Thomas, the ball squeezer, and waterhouse, the fascist shouter using the megaphone were both at the rally on the TRA side.

Are you still following Marge?

Thomas at some point after getting harangued by the TRA s goes over to Posies side because her side seems more sensible.

However, and it's not clear to me exactly when, a man still ends up squeezing another man's balls after the other man called him names through a megaphone.

How is this a reflection on a woman called Kelly Jean Keen? Marge? Seriously love!

OneMorePlant · 21/01/2023 00:34

MargaritaPie · 21/01/2023 00:02

"They were saying people who were born men shouldn't go to a women's prison and that made more sense to me"

Just a reminder this has nothing to do with Scotland's GRA. Prisons decide on a case by case basis.

You seem to have a really foul habit of jumping in a thread, ignoring everything that has been said and just rehashing some weird nonsense argument another TRA already made before you. Then you continue to ignore everyone who asks you a question that is difficult for you to answer.

Still waiting on your answers from the other threads I've seen you to why we should believe a man when he says he's a woman and how we tell the difference between two men who say they are women when one is faking it and the other is supposedly not.

Let's also add BoiledBeetle's question to how some rando showing up at an event, one that started out on the TRA side, is any reflection on Kellie-Jay Keen?

Looking forward to those answers.

Helleofabore · 21/01/2023 06:26

Let’s not forget that Marg is here and using this man’s violence against women even though women were not involved. But Marg is still using that voilence to attempt to silence women .

Let’s remember that Marg for repeated threads completely dismissed actual violence against women. Actually also made light of that violence because it involved women having ‘cream pies’ thrown at them . Marg completely dismissed the violence because hey, comedy uses cream pies thrown at people because it is FUNNY.

Marg if I remember correctly, also dismisses intimidation of women by enraged males as being violence against women. Because the males are supposedly ‘righteous’. Those enraged aggressive males shouting, some with megaphones, and blocking passage and surrounding women and other intimidation tactics.

Marg is known to dismiss violence used against women and girls (some of these rallies have children attend and speak) and yet comes onto this thread to then use the violence of two males to again attempt to silence and shame women who hold a different opinion to Marg’s.

Or doesn’t yelling Fascist at another man and encouraging the crowd to yell and abuse that man count as violence to you, Marg?Because ‘righteous’?

So, thanks for posting that Marg. It really brings your past actions into even clearer light.

WomanXXWorldsOriginsofMothersofAllNations · 21/01/2023 07:23

EastLondonObserver · 20/01/2023 18:41

But these are all tiny issues. Wouldn’t you be better off focussing elsewhere if you want to help women?

What a reprehensible comment on a board with a majority woman user base many of whom will be survivors of sexual abuse.

I can assure you as such a survivor, rape is not a ‘tiny issue’ and I can only imagine the further horror of then being forced to remain locked in with the monster who decided that violating your body was his right.

It’s only a ‘tiny issue’ if you’ve never been raped. You are morally bankrupt.

@BloodAndFire Flowers

WarriorN · 21/01/2023 07:41

MargaritaPie · 21/01/2023 00:02

"They were saying people who were born men shouldn't go to a women's prison and that made more sense to me"

Just a reminder this has nothing to do with Scotland's GRA. Prisons decide on a case by case basis.

Glad you mentioned prisons MargePIE as current data in the U.K. is showing that compared to MEN, transwomen are 252% more likely to commit and be convicted of a sexual offence.

www.womensrights.network/post/what-actually-is-the-risk-posed-by-transwomen

Helleofabore · 21/01/2023 08:21

EastLondonObserver · 20/01/2023 18:41

But these are all tiny issues. Wouldn’t you be better off focussing elsewhere if you want to help women?

I am just again highlighting this misogynist gem here.

Just for readers who have not yet encountered the misogynistic posts of ELO. This person really cannot help but show their true nature on this board. Threads littered with posts like this.

It could be said that this poster is working against supporting trans people because with posts like this, they are portraying trans activists as being misogynists who have no concept of appropriate safeguarding for women and children and seek to obliterate the boundaries women set for themselves and that people set for their children.

And posts like this shine the spotlight on just how much extreme trans activists hate women who disagree with them. And all women.

Sinnerboy: If you think that women objecting to being incarcerated with rapists, claiming to be women, or crippled by a bloke called Sharon in a rugby game, your moral compass is spinning like a propeller.

ELO But these are all tiny issues.

Once you see it, you cannot see it.

EastLondonObserver · 21/01/2023 08:24

Helleofabore · 21/01/2023 08:21

I am just again highlighting this misogynist gem here.

Just for readers who have not yet encountered the misogynistic posts of ELO. This person really cannot help but show their true nature on this board. Threads littered with posts like this.

It could be said that this poster is working against supporting trans people because with posts like this, they are portraying trans activists as being misogynists who have no concept of appropriate safeguarding for women and children and seek to obliterate the boundaries women set for themselves and that people set for their children.

And posts like this shine the spotlight on just how much extreme trans activists hate women who disagree with them. And all women.

Sinnerboy: If you think that women objecting to being incarcerated with rapists, claiming to be women, or crippled by a bloke called Sharon in a rugby game, your moral compass is spinning like a propeller.

ELO But these are all tiny issues.

Once you see it, you cannot see it.

Tiny in scale, not in severity (well apart from the rugby scenario). We good?

SinnerBoy · 21/01/2023 08:27

So, you think that women being raped in prison is a tiny issue. Your attitude is fucking reprehensible.

mrshoho · 21/01/2023 08:30

No we're not good @EastLondonObserver

Just one incident it too many and we know there have been much more than this. If you think you can just minimise away these real threats to women's rights and safety you are wrong. And it doesn't take a brain surgeon to know how self id would lead to increasing cases of men abusing the system.

Helleofabore · 21/01/2023 08:30

EastLondonObserver · 21/01/2023 08:24

Tiny in scale, not in severity (well apart from the rugby scenario). We good?

No. We are not ‘good’.

You wish to claim that your words have been misinterpreted? Wow! So many of your posts are doing exactly that, misinterpreting the words of other to present them how you need them to be interpreted to fit your agenda.

Rather an obvious hypocritical tactic, isn’t it?

Helleofabore · 21/01/2023 08:37

EastLondonObserver · 21/01/2023 08:24

Tiny in scale, not in severity (well apart from the rugby scenario). We good?

So ‘tiny in scale’ means that the issue should be ignored. And people shouldn’t care?

Do you even understand what you wrote? And you wrote it as some kind of ‘gotcha’ moment!

You are here on this board posting all sorts of misogynistic statements, on a feminism board. You also think you have some moral superiority to think you can tell anyone where to put their efforts.

Yet, you do this repeatedly across threads. This pattern of posting rings deja vu alarms for me and I suspect others feel it too. For me, it is the dishonest and misogynistic posting style that seems all too familiar.

It is only a few women - they don’t matter. Turn your attention somewhere else!

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 21/01/2023 08:42

EastLondonObserver · 21/01/2023 08:24

Tiny in scale, not in severity (well apart from the rugby scenario). We good?

Tiny in scale? how many rapes are acceptable to you?

I can 100% confirm that you are nothing like 'good'

beastlyslumber · 21/01/2023 08:47

It’s only a ‘tiny issue’ if you’ve never been raped. You are morally bankrupt.

Exactly. It's only a 'tiny issue' if you don't think rape is something women should get upset about. In other words, if you are a misogynist and a potential rapist.

Helleofabore · 21/01/2023 08:55

‘Tiny in scale’ is just as misogynistic as ‘tiny in importance’.

And is on par with Marg’s attempt at dismissing ‘cream pies’ in the face because ‘it was only a cream pie’.

Dismissal of male violence against women is inherently misogynistic.

And yet, the posters who fall back on misogynistic posts to support their ideological beliefs cannot see their own misogyny.

But they are of course using it to shame posters, the majority being women, in an attempt to discredit them or to portray their concerns as worthy of being diminished, or to disparage them. The outcome is always the same though- they want women they disagree with to Shut The Fuck Up!!

That never changes.

EastLondonObserver · 21/01/2023 09:00

mrshoho · 21/01/2023 08:30

No we're not good @EastLondonObserver

Just one incident it too many and we know there have been much more than this. If you think you can just minimise away these real threats to women's rights and safety you are wrong. And it doesn't take a brain surgeon to know how self id would lead to increasing cases of men abusing the system.

i once read about of a child falling on an upright toothbrush and blinding themselves. But we’re not banning the toothbrush. Because one dimension we think about problems with is scale.

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