Kellie-Jay Keen (AKA Posie Parker) appreciation thread

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I just love this woman! She undoubtedly has the Midas touch when it comes to marketing and publicity.

I have been to several of her events over the years, and she has time for each and every woman who comes to see her.

Any other fans here?

Another thing I like is Posie's serenity. No matter what anyone accuses her of or what provocation she faces, she just sails on.

And her take-down of Adrian Harrop will always be funny.

Sail on, Posie, you star.

I still find it amusing that ELO drops terms like ‘holocaust denier’ and ‘horseshoe theory’ yet wants people to believe they have never heard the term ‘gatekeeping’ used in business or politics!

I don't think ELO knows what any of the terms mean, to be honest.

They've spent all this time on here, and still don't know what gender critical means.

Yes, datun. I suspect you are right.

“If these are your movement’s figureheads, then there is little to fear.”

🤔 I think you are very afraid of KJK otherwise why waste so much of your time and attention on this thread? If she were irrelevant or perhaps as you are trying to suggest, so despicable to ordinary people that they therefore won’t listen to her, you wouldn’t be here.

Also your movement promotes the deliberate destruction of the bonds between parents and children in order to encourage children to damage their healthy bodies, making themselves lifelong medical patients and infertile, but also wants to force women and children into situations where they will be undressing, asleep, unwell and/or incarcerated with men. None of this bothers you?

Finally I am glad that KJK will talk to whoever will listen, who knows maybe listening to her will enlighten them and shift their position to being more empathetic and compassionate to others.

Indeed, Necessary.

The distraction is so clear. Look over here is evil!!! Evil, I tell you!

No… don’t listen to her. Don’t listen to her saying that children and teens are on irreversible medical treatments because they express they feel like the opposite sex. Don’t look at the paucity of evidence that affirming only treatment and those drugs and surgeries are the best treatments.

Don’t look at the rapidly growing evidence of females of any gender being raped, impregnated and abused in prisons because some males want to be housed in female prisons.

Don’t look at women’s sports and the facts that even the IOC has declared that inclusion should be prioritised over fairness- the IOC!! How much do they hate women and girls!

Don’t look at the women begging for female single sex spaces being ignored and abused. No! No! Don’t look at the Rape Crisis Centres vilifying women for asking for just one group to be female only out of a ‘women’s’ group, an LGBTQ + group and a men’s group!

Don’t look at the rapes occurring in NHS hospital wards!

Don’t look at what happens in sexist sectors when sex segregation is removed for rewarding performance! I mean, who the fuck ever thought the entertainment industry would be sexist? Really?

No! no!

Holocaust denial!

Right wing listening to words!

Sparple! Sparple! Sparple!

Sorry - never heard of “gatekeep” used as a verb, as I mentioned.

It’s not used widely in business for sure.

”I gatekeep the accounts HR policy”

”Sarah gatekeeps the the marketing strategy”

”I am a hotel receptionist - I gatekeep at the Holiday Inn”

said no one ever….

It's her hair, isn't it? It's just sheer jealousy of those Marilyn-esque blonde curls. She's so petite, too. Bet that pisses a lot of people off. So feminine. And yet she just Will Not Do As She's Told.

This is where we are now, isn't it?

What puzzles me is if someone - like “Posie” - wants to communicate this to as many people as possible, why would they limit their appeal by keeping such terrible company.

Yes, there’s some logic in attacking accusations of “guilt by association”. But this isn’t an undergrad seminar, it’s real world politics. The company you keep has a significant effect on your appeal.

She’s either incredibly dumb, incompetent or desperate if she thinks sharing platforms with US social conservatives, holocaust deniers, anti abortionists and anti LGB bods are going to be effective.

That is, of course, unless she has sympathy with some of these views as well. I’m sure she’s not that much of a rotter though - after all look at her lovely jumpsuits!

Accidental bigly images but no access to bigly letters yet!

You are really crossing into absurd territory now.

Creating irrelevant examples of its use or that are relevant but people would not use the term specifically, doesn’t negate its relevant usage.

And if you haven’t seen it in business and politics, perhaps it says more about your positions not being all that relevant to setting strategies for business growth or political influence, sales, or even just getting through to anyone with information you want.

Or you haven’t rung through to a call centre where the person answering your call cannot deviate from the strict script and tells you that ‘no, you cannot speak to anyone else’.

Never rung someone’s personal assistant and got a polite no? Or a ‘I’ll pass the message on’ but never got a call back. Never had a colleague who didn’t really include you in their project?

Gosh! You must have lived a very charmed life if you have never experienced gatekeeping in real life.

And yet, a simple google search will show its wide usage.

Most people are easily able to judge KJK's motivations by listening to her words and observing her actions. She is transparent in what she says and does.

The desperate attempts to smear her as a fascist just wont work as long as people can tune in to one of her interviews or livestreams or go to one of her events.

It's also extremely insulting to the brave women who speak at her events (some of whom have been assaulted by TRAs) to tell them they are supporting fascism. Well it would be insulting if it weren't so obviously a load of nonsense.

The point of debate was “whether to gatekeep” is a commonly used verb.

You haven’t demonstrated it is.

Oh don't be ridiculous, ELO. It's commonly used, everyone knows what it means. You've not personally come across it, you're hardly a representative sample of anything.

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What puzzles me is if someone - like “Posie” - wants to communicate this to as many people as possible, why would they limit their appeal by keeping such terrible company.

Yes, her only friends are Nazis. FFS.

I'm not surprised that you can spout such shite, you're ignorance is something to behold, as you've shown by not having heard of gatekeeping.

She’s either incredibly dumb, incompetent or desperate

Haha!! You're actually that typing on a Posie Parker appreciation thread 😆

I really think you should give this one up, the more you protest the more it sounds like you just didn't know what gatekeeping means.

Verb or no, you know what it means

Whether you feel a word is being used incorrectly as a verb or not doesnt affect the intention

If someone on here said they were feministing or womanning wrong it doesn't take a genius to work out what they mean

It tookme so long to type that everyone beat me to it

I recommend any reader, and you particularly, use google. And see for themselves the wide range of usage for the term. It really does cover many disciplines.

And yet, just because you personally don't understand when gatekeeping is happening to you so you can use the term effectively, doesn't also mean others don't understand and will use the term.

You seem to be well stuck in a rut with repeating "holocaust deniers, anti abortionists". (I see you have started repeating US Social conservatives and now also anti-LGB bods too)

I read your OP in one of your threads that you were in advertising for 25 years! So, I guess you work on the principle that if you repeat something enough times that you will eventually convince someone.

"Yes, there’s some logic in attacking accusations of “guilt by association”. But this isn’t an undergrad seminar, it’s real world politics. The company you keep has a significant effect on your appeal."

And there is both the sleight of hand dishonesty and the very tight purity spiral polarisation.

"But this isn’t an undergrad seminar, it’s real world politics."

You obviously haven't actually thought this through.

Real world politics is ALL about presenting to a wide range of people, even those you disagree with.

Real world politics means working on committees with people you don't agree with on many, if any things, but want to make sure of an outcome that you can live with.

Real world politics means having photos taken with people you abhor.

"The company you keep has a significant effect on your appeal"

The 'company' you keep. Who is she 'keeping company with'? You mean friends? Who are her 'friends'? Do you not have friends and family you disagree with but still love? Well... adulting is very hard, we know.

Or do you mean being seen at the same conferences or events with? Do you believe that politicians never attend a conference that they disagree with the organisers on to present an alternative view? Do you believe that politicians only ever give interviews to channels that fit the purity they desire to be associated with?

Your example is quite something.

You are either now declaring that KJK is best friends with holocaust deniers,

or

you are trying to tell us that politicians don't ever appear on a program, an event or a media channel unless everything about those programs and events and media (organisers, audience and other speakers) 100% fit all their beliefs.

or

you really don't have much real life experience outside a very curated bubble.

Advertising you say helle

But the language of marketing has also coined its own words. Where an appropriate noun wasn't available, the advertising industry would often make one up

Rather Rufus. Rather!!

I read your OP in one of your threads that you were in advertising for 25 years! So, I guess you work on the principle that if you repeat something enough times that you will eventually convince someone.

That's obviously a typo. I think ELO meant they have been watching adverts for 25 years.

I though GC feminists were largely pro freedom of speech?

Why so many attempts to shut it down on this thread?

Hypocrisy much?