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Allison Bailey v Stonewall - Employment Appeal Tribunal hearing Thread 19

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ickky · 26/09/2022 17:24

Allison Bailey has tweeted her intention to appeal the Stonewall decision.

twitter.com/BluskyeAllison/status/1572133035335716865

The Tribunal started on 25th April, witness testimony concluded on the 26th May. Closing arguments for council was on the 20th June.

There was also live tweeting from

twitter.com/tribunaltweets

tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/allison-bailey-vs-stonewall-and-garden

Abbreviations:

AB: Allison Bailey, claimant
BC: Ben Cooper QC, barrister for AB
SW = Stonewall Equality Limited (respondent 1)
IO = Ijeoma Omambala QC, senior counsel - barrister for SW
RW = Robin White junior counsel to SW - assisting IO
GC = Garden Court Chambers Limited (respondent 2) (GCC )
AH = Andrew Hochhauser QC, senior counsel - barrister for GC
JR = Jane Russell junior counsel to GC - assisting AH
RM= Rajiv Menon QC & SH = Stephanie Harrison QC (jointly respondent 3 along with all members of GC except AB)
EJ = Employment Judge Goodman hearing the case
Panel = Judge Goodman, Mr M. Reuby and Ms Darmas

Thread 1 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4529887-Allison-Bailey-v-Stonewall-Employment-Tribunal-hearing?
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Allison Bailey - claimant (4-9, 11-13 May)

Witnesses for the claimant:

Dr Nicola Williams - Fair Play for Women (29 April)
Dr Judith Green - A Woman's Place (29 April)
Kate Barker - LGB Alliance (3 May)
Lisa-Marie Taylor - FiLiA (4 May)

Witnesses for the respondents:

Stephen Lue - barrister for GCC (3-4 May)
Zainab Al-Farabi - ex Stonewall (10 May)
Kirrin Medcalf - head of trans inclusion Stonewall (10 May)
Leslie Thomas - barrister at GCC (13 May)
Sanjay Sood Smith - Stonewall (16 May)
Shaan Knan - LGBT consortium - on STAG (16 May)
Rajiv Menon - joint head of chambers (16-17 May)
Maya Sikand - barrister at GCC (17-18 May)
Mia Hakl-Law - HR senior for GCC (18 May)
Judy Khan - barrister at GCC (19-20 May)
Charlie Tennent - clerk at GCC (20 May)
Luke Harvey - clerk at GCC (20 May)
Louise Hooper - Barrister at GCC (20 May)
David Renton - barrister at GCC (20 May, 25 May)
Marc Willers - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Stephen Clark - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Liz Davies - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Cathryn McGahey - Bar Council Ethics Committee's VC (24 May)
Tom Wainwright - Barrister at GCC (24 May)
Colin Cook - Head clerk at GCC (24 May)
David de Menezes - GCC, Head of Marketing (25 May)
Kathryn Cronin - barrister at GCC (25 May)
Michelle Brewer - barrister at GCC at time, now left and a judge (26 May)
Stephanie Harrison - joint head of chambers (26 May)

Closing arguments for AB, GCC, and SW (20 June)

Allison Bailey's Witness Statement

allisonbailey.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/Witness-Statement-of-Allison-Bailey.pdf
Supplementary Statement
allisonbailey.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/C-Supplementary-Witness-Statement.pdf
Closing Statement
allisonbailey.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/CLOSING-SUBMISSIONS-FINAL.pdf

The Reserved Judgement (forth one down)

www.gov.uk/employment-tribunal-decisions/ms-a-bailey-v-stonewall-equality-ltd-and-others-2202172-slash-2020

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ickky · 14/05/2024 10:44

BC Setting out AB's Case

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RimTimTagiTim · 14/05/2024 10:45

MyLadyDisdainlsYetLiving · 14/05/2024 10:43

Are we allowed to comment on who else is in court on the back row?

Probably not but I'll put a fiver down on a golden labrador in a crochet jumper.

ickky · 14/05/2024 10:46

Kirren Metcalf, Stonewalls head of trans inclusion (of support dog fame) sent an email complaining about AB's tweets.

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MyLadyDisdainlsYetLiving · 14/05/2024 10:49

In case it has been missed, Tribunal Tweets were granted permission to live tweet. Ben is currently summarising the findings of the original hearing.

ickky · 14/05/2024 10:49

I think this was the other way round, Didn't Michelle Brewer contact a stonewall employee (while destroying a bin) and suggest that they all complain about AB's tweets?

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Theeyeballsinthesky · 14/05/2024 10:54

ickky · 14/05/2024 10:49

I think this was the other way round, Didn't Michelle Brewer contact a stonewall employee (while destroying a bin) and suggest that they all complain about AB's tweets?

It feels a very long time ago now doesn’t if it lots of different ways

redpicturelamp · 14/05/2024 10:56

Could anyone tell me where the tribunal is being held? Going to try to make it in-person this afternoon.

ickky · 14/05/2024 10:57

Employment Appeal Tribunal, 7 Rolls Buildings, Fetter Ln, London EC4A 1NL

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MyLadyDisdainlsYetLiving · 14/05/2024 11:01

redpicturelamp · 14/05/2024 10:56

Could anyone tell me where the tribunal is being held? Going to try to make it in-person this afternoon.

Be aware the room is not big, and all the observers are clearly visible on camera.

ArabellaScott · 14/05/2024 11:01

Best of luck today, Allison.

redpicturelamp · 14/05/2024 11:05

Thanks so much🙌

Propertylover · 14/05/2024 11:06

ickky · 14/05/2024 10:49

I think this was the other way round, Didn't Michelle Brewer contact a stonewall employee (while destroying a bin) and suggest that they all complain about AB's tweets?

I think the focus is on Alison vs Stonewall as that is the appeal.

BC is clear he is not submitting additional evidence but setting out why the ET reached the decision it did when it also stated Stonewall had influenced(?) GCC.

Datun · 14/05/2024 11:11

placemarking

GCITC · 14/05/2024 11:13

My emotional support cat is not being very helpful and is currently hiding under a blanket.

I might not make it through the morning.

LipbalmOrKnickers · 14/05/2024 11:17

Mine are sulking at the rain and making general nuisances of themselves.

MyLadyDisdainlsYetLiving · 14/05/2024 11:18

IAmOnTheList · 14/05/2024 10:35

There is a cracking back row behind AB and BC - Maya, Jo Cherry, the Bev from LGBA.

Anyone know how to make the main screen bigger?

Eileen Gallagher next to Bev?

Pyjamagame · 14/05/2024 11:18

My support dog is napping having been for a very very long walk this morning so that I could observe in peace. Poor lamb doesn't know what's hit him.

LipbalmOrKnickers · 14/05/2024 11:19

I had forgotten about TELI

murasaki · 14/05/2024 11:19

Good luck Allison. My emotional support cat has expressed his stress levels by vomming on the carpet. Maybe he needs an emotional support mouse.

ickky · 14/05/2024 11:20

LipbalmOrKnickers · 14/05/2024 11:17

Mine are sulking at the rain and making general nuisances of themselves.

Same. Knocked stuff off the side and actually huffed at me. 😂

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LipbalmOrKnickers · 14/05/2024 11:20
Grin
GoodHeavens99 · 14/05/2024 11:21

Who's the lady with the red hair.

WFTCHTJ · 14/05/2024 11:22

I think she's from FILIA?

GoodHeavens99 · 14/05/2024 11:22

I think I prefer the Teams version.

I did miss the WFTCHTJ message, though.

ickky · 14/05/2024 11:22

She looks familiar.

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