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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Bette Midler

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FireFlyBoogaloo · 04/07/2022 17:31

Just posted on Twitter. The usual suspects are all over the replies, obviously, so give her some support if you can—but there's a surprising amount of balance. Seems to me that the scales have finally started to tip.

It was always going to be sunlight.

---WOMEN OF THE WORLD! We are being stripped of our rights over our bodies, our lives and even of our name! They don’t call us “women” anymore; they call us “birthing people” or “menstruators”, and even “people with vaginas”!
Don’t let them erase you! Every human on earth owes you!---

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MythicalReasonableTwitterUser · 05/07/2022 11:41

achillestoes
Twitter rage: ‘Like why the fuck you even care? Am I only a woman because of my parts? Is that what we’re limited to?’

this recurring excuse for an argument is amazing to me, coming from people who would call me a uterus haver.

nooboonoo
Just seen how this is being reported (in The Independent).
Why do they report it like this? Imagine if the headlines said Bette tweets what most women are thinking but too afraid to say in public? Macy shows support for biology, fact and common sense?

Ffs. I was so happy to see the support flooding in last night and now I'm downright mad all over again.

Being a bit out of the loop, I had to search online for Bette Midler to get more of an idea who she is- and found the related news boxes just a tad encouraging, compared to what I would have expected a year or so ago- note the scare quotes around "demonizing." Hopefully lots of people will be curious enough to check out what's getting called "demonization."

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Manderleyagain · 05/07/2022 11:46

I've looked in to whether bette has spoken before. Notvreally but she got into trouble for misgendering catling jenner in 2016. Some on twitter have not forgotten and didn't think her apology at the time was good enough.

She obviously stepped into it not realising that social mores had changed and some male ppl cannot be referred to as male.

DEAR FRIENDS @HRC , WHOM I HAVE ALWAYS SUPPORTED. SORRY LAST TWEET OFFENDED. AN IDLE MUSING. I SEEM TO HAVE MISREAD THE TEMPER OF THE TIMES.

mobile.twitter.com/BetteMidler/status/767401119504961536

WarriorN · 05/07/2022 11:51

🤣 loving Julian's rant no one can make any sense of!

WarriorN · 05/07/2022 11:58

Bette and Macy are now fascists according to IW.

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WarriorN · 05/07/2022 12:00

AND YOU'RE ALL RUSSIAN BOTS!

In other news my 4 yr old has found Dennis and Gnasher on Cbbc and insists it's Dennis and Russia.

achillestoes · 05/07/2022 12:01

That is one paranoid rant.

dropthevipers · 05/07/2022 12:04

WarriorN · 05/07/2022 11:58

Bette and Macy are now fascists according to IW.

That's completely fucking unhinged-surely people have been sectioned for less? How come Willoughby is still walking among us?

WarriorN · 05/07/2022 12:05

Live, being added to, thread detailing the abuse being levelled at Bette and Macy.

Macy apparently died today. And we are the fascists?

twitter.com/hatpinwoman/status/1544274283823767555?s=21&t=g-QDBRh7YL2wb-xHKdk5gA

ResisterRex · 05/07/2022 12:08

KatVonlabonk · 05/07/2022 11:05

The posh lads at Penis News are cross. 👇

Note how they will not repeat her words. I imagine in case any readers think "hold on, why can't women call themselves women?"

WarriorN · 05/07/2022 12:08

She has some "I wish you would choke" posts.

The usual.

TheBiologyStupid · 05/07/2022 12:30

WarriorN · 05/07/2022 12:00

AND YOU'RE ALL RUSSIAN BOTS!

In other news my 4 yr old has found Dennis and Gnasher on Cbbc and insists it's Dennis and Russia.

😂

Datun · 05/07/2022 12:37

Jesus. They really are gibbering, aren't they.

It can't be long before this movement implodes. No one in their right mind, or anyone who needs to work, is going to align themselves with people like that.

TheWeeDonkey · 05/07/2022 12:38

WarriorN · 05/07/2022 11:58

Bette and Macy are now fascists according to IW.

Is India feeling okay?

TheWeeDonkey · 05/07/2022 12:44

KatVonlabonk · 05/07/2022 08:43

They have created a world where people are frightened to say what a woman is.

It's been incredible and terrifying to witness.
Well done to everyone brave enough to stand up and fight.

Its a weird horseshoe effect isn't it? One side removeing women's autonomy, the other side removing women's ability to protest against it.

Soubriquet · 05/07/2022 13:16

I’m so glad that people are starting to wake up.

They are pushing the trans movement at the expense of women. Not men. Funny that.

Inclusure is not “vagina havers can sit at this table”
”it’s women and vagina havers can sit at this table”

If someone wants to identify themselves as a vagina haver, there you go. There’s your label.

If a trans woman wants to identify as a woman for the table, there you go. You’re validated.

Meanwhile, women in general also have their place.

WarriorN · 05/07/2022 13:46

Is India feeling okay?

No India isn't ok. Just had a look and there's been nothing but abuse of Macy for most of the day on IW's twitter.

This was the last one:

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Soubriquet · 05/07/2022 13:49

India is never ok

mrshoho · 05/07/2022 13:53

iw blocked me last night about 10 minutes after I commented a supportive comment and like to Macy. iw must be fulltime 24/7 on twitter patrol. No wonder iw has no time for a real career.

NumberTheory · 05/07/2022 14:01

If the LGBTQ+ movement followed this idea on inclusive language they wouldn’t be able to describe a group at all -

Penis havers who have sex with penis havers, vagina havers who have sex with vagina havers, people who don’t like what was put on their birth certificate, anyone who finds romantic narratives unsatisfying and anyone else who doesn’t like the mainstream or feels a bit picked on.

PearlClutch · 05/07/2022 14:04

WarriorN · 05/07/2022 11:58

Bette and Macy are now fascists according to IW.

Good god.

TheBiologyStupid · 05/07/2022 15:08

The Glinner Update features the response to Bette and Macy: grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/bette-midler-and-macy-gray-join-team

Datun · 05/07/2022 15:31

Crikey those men on Twitter are in full on denial aren't they!

'We're not erasing women'. You menstruating vagina havers, you.

MrsTerryPratchett · 05/07/2022 15:47

If I delete Macy's music and rebuy it from Apple, will she get paid again?

WeeBisom · 05/07/2022 15:51

Jezebel has an article up saying that Bette midler is “transphobic” and has literally just quoted her tweet. So a woman saying “women unite , they are erasing our name” is a transphobe , apparently. Everything women say and so is bigoted.

AperolWhore · 05/07/2022 15:52

I wonder what piers has to say on being called a CIS tv personality @FireFlyBoogaloo Maddening!

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