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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Bette Midler

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FireFlyBoogaloo · 04/07/2022 17:31

Just posted on Twitter. The usual suspects are all over the replies, obviously, so give her some support if you can—but there's a surprising amount of balance. Seems to me that the scales have finally started to tip.

It was always going to be sunlight.

---WOMEN OF THE WORLD! We are being stripped of our rights over our bodies, our lives and even of our name! They don’t call us “women” anymore; they call us “birthing people” or “menstruators”, and even “people with vaginas”!
Don’t let them erase you! Every human on earth owes you!---

Bette Midler
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Datun · 05/07/2022 00:44

Yep. Ban abortion, then tell women they're not allowed to describe who it affects.

I bet Macy are Bette are just the beginning.

dropthevipers · 05/07/2022 00:45

ZuttZeVootEeeVo · 04/07/2022 23:42

It's odd that Willoughby said that Macy had killed what's left of her career. Firstly because of all the people who's seen their career crumble it's Willoughby. Also, isn't admitting to be part of a mafia style showbiz protection racket saying the quiet bit out loud?

I dont think what Willoughby does can be described as a career, unless spouting wall to wall non stop bollocks now counts as a career.

TheBiologyStupid · 05/07/2022 01:17

ZuttZeVootEeeVo · 04/07/2022 23:42

It's odd that Willoughby said that Macy had killed what's left of her career. Firstly because of all the people who's seen their career crumble it's Willoughby. Also, isn't admitting to be part of a mafia style showbiz protection racket saying the quiet bit out loud?

This!

Conflictedunicorn · 05/07/2022 05:51

Who even is IW? Telling Macy Gray off FFS. When IW has the fame and clout Macy has, then IW can lecture people about trashing their careers. Does IW even present anything now, or just ramble on Twitter?

achillestoes · 05/07/2022 06:00

For some reason, Adrian Comerford thinks Bette Midler has ‘lost her iconic status with one tweet’.

Who is AC again?

achillestoes · 05/07/2022 06:16

Twitter rage: ‘Like why the fuck you even care? Am I only a woman because of my parts? Is that what we’re limited to?’

Yes. I am only a woman because of my body. I have no essential womanliness other than my parts.

musicalfrog · 05/07/2022 06:26

I really hope youngsters will see these messages and it makes them think twice about potential surgery.

achillestoes · 05/07/2022 06:28

This is where it goes... Another Twitter user to Bette:

‘Other people are responding with more important and serious things to say, but I can't help but think about the fact that this woman would have gone through menopause around the 1980s and has lost not a single goddamn thing.’

The logic here is, we’re going to call women menstruators now, but you there, who used to be a menstruator, but now are old, you are something else. Something other than a menstruator.

Did there used to be a word for that?

quixote9 · 05/07/2022 06:28

Good for her! Brava! (I worry a bit about how insanely grateful I feel for any celebs who stand up.)

And this just days after the NYTimes article. I don't really dare hope that even in deepest darkest USA they're starting to come to their senses.

achillestoes · 05/07/2022 06:37

Apparently it’s all because she’s ugly. She’s jealous of transwomen because they’re so ‘cute’.

No, no misogyny here.

Musomama1 · 05/07/2022 06:39

It's notable someone from the showbiz especially musical theatre world is calling out the 'be kind' crap. Also Bette Midler is a grande dame isn't she, plenty of credibility.

As for Macy Gray, I love her plain speaking, I just love her voice anyway to be honest, how could you disagree with her? She should narrate a GC audiobook!

achillestoes · 05/07/2022 06:49

Another choice viewpoint:

’Why is it always women who can’t even give birth anymore who insist on this point? A trans man with a viable uterus has way more say on this than you old lady’

Remind me again how it’s only the right wing loons who tie the ability to give birth to being female?

Conflictedunicorn · 05/07/2022 07:10

So the moment she says something the traliban don’t like she’s old ugly and a has been. Bet If she’d have supported trans rights she’d have been lauded as a queen. But it’s not policing women at all! Nope. And the misogyny is chilling as PP have said

WarriorN · 05/07/2022 07:10

Macy Gray is STILL trending!

achillestoes · 05/07/2022 07:14

@Conflictedunicorn

That’s right, and when you strip away all the glitter and the ‘be kind’, it’s obvious these people believe those things (being old, not being ‘breedable’) make her an ‘unwoman’.

That’s because they are deeply, irredeemably sexist at heart.

MsTSwift · 05/07/2022 07:15

They are like the child declaring that the emperor has no clothes. Awesome. Love them both.

WarriorN · 05/07/2022 07:16

Not sure who Macy is talking to here on twitter but here are two recent tweets:

there is no bigger admirer of lgbt community than your truly. it takes real balls to be honest about who you are. "woman" is a title that you earn and become. just like "man." there are plenty of females who aren't women yet and every girl gets that.

i wasn't defining trans women. just women. because i know what it means to be one. i don't know what it means to be a trans woman and never said i did. but that goes both ways.

Conflictedunicorn · 05/07/2022 07:20

If this doesn’t open people’s eyes to how women, even very famous, ones are treated when they say something that Jen don’t agree with, nothing will. The way both are being talked to is disgusting and it explains why a lot of women kept silent. Next time someone asks ‘where are the women standing up’. I’m going to point them to bettes thread, and to JKs thread.

napody · 05/07/2022 07:20

ZuttZeVootEeeVo · 04/07/2022 23:42

It's odd that Willoughby said that Macy had killed what's left of her career. Firstly because of all the people who's seen their career crumble it's Willoughby. Also, isn't admitting to be part of a mafia style showbiz protection racket saying the quiet bit out loud?

Yup: 'enjoy your erasure'.

WarriorN · 05/07/2022 07:25

Apparently Mark Hamid liked Bette's tweet and it's the end of days.

WarriorN · 05/07/2022 07:26

*Hamil ffs!

musicalfrog · 05/07/2022 07:29

WarriorN · 05/07/2022 07:16

Not sure who Macy is talking to here on twitter but here are two recent tweets:

there is no bigger admirer of lgbt community than your truly. it takes real balls to be honest about who you are. "woman" is a title that you earn and become. just like "man." there are plenty of females who aren't women yet and every girl gets that.

i wasn't defining trans women. just women. because i know what it means to be one. i don't know what it means to be a trans woman and never said i did. but that goes both ways.

Some chap who wanted her removed from a festival lineup. Has now protected his tweets for some strange reason.

WarriorN · 05/07/2022 07:30

Oh I did see him last night. I think he'd already booked her and she played? I actually think it was for pride.

achillestoes · 05/07/2022 07:30

They’re going down all over the world, Mr President.

mrshoho · 05/07/2022 07:43

The unravelling is quite satisfying.

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