Allison Bailey v Stonewall - Employment Tribunal hearing Thread 5

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Abbreviations:
AB: Allison Bailey, claimant
BC: Ben Cooper QC, barrister for AB
SW = Stonewall Equality Limited (respondent 1)
IO = Ijeoma Omambala QC, senior counsel - barrister for SW
RW = Robin White junior counsel to SW - assisting IO
GC = Garden Court Chambers Limited (respondent 2) (GCC would be a better abbreviation)
AH = Andrew Hochhauser QC, senior counsel - barrister for GC
JR = Jane Russell junior counsel to GC - assisting AH
RM= Rajiv Menon QC & SH = Stephanie Harrison QC (jointly respondent 3 along with all members of GC except AB)
EJ = Employment Judge Goodman hearing the case
Panel = any one of the three panel members (EJ and two lay members)

Thread 1 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4529887-Allison-Bailey-v-Stonewall-Employment-Tribunal-hearing?

Thread 2 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4542466-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-2

Thread 3 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4545725-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-3

Thread 4 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4546945-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-4

In fairness I don't think Allison was defensive whereas he definitely has been.

"I've just read LT's barrister profile and it looks as though he has done some incredible work advocating for victims of state and organisational abuse. I'm actually finding it really sad that he's kind of falling apart like this."

This might be because he is not in control of the situation, Ben Cooper is in control.

Yes I was going to say the same thing. Seriously impressive CV. I feel a bit sad that he is coming across like this too.

I also find it very odd that any lawyer, presented with a legal statement such as 'this is a problem under the Equalities Act' doesn;t go and look it up and decide for themselves! IANAL but I work with the law a lot and when I am presented with something that isn't my area I quite often go and look up the relevant act.

To just take on trust that a respected member of chambers (and he said they were all respected) is doing something illegal with no justification is weird.

Monday is Menon as a witness for GCC and then two Stonewall witnesses.

The timetable has moved on and they need witness testimony to be finished by 27 May. It was supposed to be 23 May.

I find IO quite annoying in her style

Oh Mr Knan on Monday can't wait

Menon? I've lost track

Oh and Mia will be joining us another treat

Why are they not announcing the names of the SW witness's? Is this to protect them?

Wait, so is Nancy Kelly not being called?

Ok so presumably they're not worried that now we know who is up next that we won't spend the weekend attacking them.

Mia Haki-Law will be after Menon followed by Maya Sikand.

They did. It's Knan and I didn't catch the other. Is it Menon?

Wait, so is Nancy Kelly not being called?

Witnesses are put forward by each side so if Stonewall prefer not to put forward Kelley, she won't be giving evidence.

Upcoming witnesses: two Stonewall witness, and then for GCC, Menon followed by Mia Haki-Law followed by Maya Sikand.

I keep expecting BC to announce his next witness will be Noggin the Nog. I'm old. But what a lovely voice.

Thanks for the updates everyone.
(I agree with the point above - if someone tells me a law even outside my area like covid laws or something like that I don't take it on trust as I am a lawyer - I want to read the precise words in the legislation)

Who are they all? Do we know?

As in, what roles do they/did they play?

I heard Suit-Smith? Is that a Stonewall person? Shouldve Googled first.

Nancy Kelley became CEO in 2020 so what happened with Allison Bailey is outside of her period of office. Ruth Hunt was CEO at that time.

Sood-Smith, apparently.

Yeah. Just found him too. Sanjay Sood-Smith.

Doesn't work there anymore.

He was on The Apprentice apparently ..