Allison Bailey v Stonewall - Employment Tribunal hearing

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The Tribunal will start on 25th April at 10am. If you would like to view online you need to send a request for access as early as possible.

Send an email to

[email protected]

The subject heading of the email request should read

“MEDIA OR PUBLIC ACCESS REQUEST – Case number 2202172/2020 - Ms A Bailey – 25th April 2022.

Then ask for the pin for the online access.

You will be contacted with instructions on how to observe the hearing.

I have sent a request but haven't had anything back yet. Hopefully nearer the time.

Sorry to sound like a broken record but my God, this is beyond crazy now. Although it does somewhat prove the point about the difficulty of navigating the bundle…..

Lol Mr Lue is a cocky so and so.

I don't see this as fun, it's my duty as a citizen to attend important hearings like this where possible (I can't today).

It should be an everyday occurrence that we have access to court hearings.

I regret the cuts to the justice system enormously. As a public citizenry we won't understand it nor care sufficiently about it unless we can watch the sausage being made.

It almost looks deliberate, doesn't it? Agree watching it is not worth it if then not enough time to get through it all.

I know, but at the moment it feels like the delays, bundle issues, access issues, people being disruptive in the chat, what they are wearing, audio and so on would NOT happen in court in person. And these are at best a distraction, and worst quite serious with regards to a proper hearing.

The whole thing sounds like an omnishambles par excellence.

Is this really how the EAT want to look to the wider world?

Mr Lue was a bit rude to our lovely, Ben, too!

He is but not so much so now. Why isn't he answering the question?

How on earth, after two years of lockdown etc, is someone working as a law professional, unable to work a document find function or an online meeting. It isn't believable and it doesn't inspire confidence in garden court, hardly glowing PR.

Oh my god Ben has such a good poker face, it would be obvious from mine that I wanted to throttle the witness.

I don't see this as fun, it's my duty as a citizen to attend important hearings like this where possible (I can't today).

It should be an everyday occurrence that we have access to court hearings.

I regret the cuts to the justice system enormously. As a public citizenry we won't understand it nor care sufficiently about it unless we can watch the sausage being made.

Yes, Justice has to be seen to be done.

Mr Lue is prominent in the bundle.

BC taking off the kid gloves.

Okay I'm now in. I can see a list of participants. But otherwise it's just a black screen with 'noone is presenting'. Help?

Why is he addressing the Judge, when Ben is asking the question??

I don't care for Mr Lue.

Also why is Mr Lue directing his answers to the judge?

What a rude individual this Mr Lue is!!!
Funny, on the GCC website they say a couple of times how Mr Lue is known for his 'respectfulness' - he is clearly anything but

Jinx!

I was going to say why on earth isn’t everyone on mute apart from Ben and mr Lue

I think it's how it's done. Barrister asks the questions, answers are to the tribunal.

'We'll take this very slowly.'

Killing me, BC.

Some people might suggest that Mr Lue is being less than helpful to the Tribunal.

He is not answering questions.
He made a delay with a the headset.
He is making feedback noises.

Just seems a bit rude, like he won't directly answer BC.

I'm in!

I chair remote tribunals so should find this straightforward, and I literally have no idea if I'm muted or my camera is off or not. This software is ... not good. I've folded up a piece of packaging and put over my camera, and am trying to be very quiet.

If anyone can see me (same username as this) please shout.

Their actual defence seems to be "I'm going through a tunnel. I can't hear you."

Ear muffs??

Is Mr Lue being deliberately clueless here?