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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

MI6

280 replies

littlebilliie · 26/02/2022 23:20

I think there is so much to worry about with Ukraine, I wasn't expecting this statement from MI6 about freedoms.... I think a whole society is at risk yet there is more pontificate and point scoring which suggest a 'wall influence.

Completely tone deaf

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Whitefire · 28/02/2022 00:02

I think what distinguishes us from Putin is that we are not some despot dropping bombs on people.

The phase "hard won freedoms" is especially tone deaf when people are literally fighting for their lives. (And I use literally in the absolute correct sense, that is what literal violence is)

Lovelyricepudding · 28/02/2022 00:23

And I use literally in the absolute correct sense, that is what literal violence is

Are you suggesting that misgendering putin and his officers would be insufficient to bring him down? Maybe that is where MI6 have gone wrong? They expected that having departments of crack spies misgendering him and his forces on a daily basis would decimate their armies?

Ameanstreakamilewide · 28/02/2022 07:34

[quote Hawkins001]@Ameanstreakamilewide

I understand your perspectives, it's been good debating with you all, even if I'm a pickle.[/quote]
You're welcome.
What have you brought to the 'debate'?

Except for sticking your oar in and policing our language.
Same old, same old with fellas.

And where did I call you a 'pickle'? I would never use language like that.
I'd always opt for something much stronger.
But I could do without a telling off from MNHQ, so I'll keep my powder dry and let you draw your own conclusions.

KittenKong · 28/02/2022 07:39

Maybe it’s a ploy to recruit a whole battalion of gender skeptics who can destroy the enemy by withering misgendering - and when the nuclear option is required… dead naming. 😱

MrsWooster · 28/02/2022 07:41

Is a pickle the same as a 🍆 ?

DomesticatedZombie · 28/02/2022 07:53

Yes, only smaller and a sort of mottled green colour.

Iwishihadariver · 28/02/2022 07:58

I missed this thread yesterday as I had to pop off to carve quite a lot of detritus out of the garden after church. As I was an absentee mumsnetter I insist that

a) I'm ok that other sweary sweaty women mumsnetters spoke on my behalf and

b) knobbish actions deserve to get called out for what they are ie fucking twattish wankerous arse-licking by a knob and

c) we see you hawkins👀1

KittenKong · 28/02/2022 08:20

I worked with someone whose nickname was pickle. It was a term of endearment from her childhood.

Is it an insult now

SpinningTheSeedsOfLove · 28/02/2022 08:32

The knobbly version is more of a gherkin isn’t it?

DomesticatedZombie · 28/02/2022 09:10

I thought a gherkin was a pickle? What is it if it isn't a gherkin?!

Hawkins001 · 28/02/2022 09:29

@Iwishihadariver

I missed this thread yesterday as I had to pop off to carve quite a lot of detritus out of the garden after church. As I was an absentee mumsnetter I insist that

a) I'm ok that other sweary sweaty women mumsnetters spoke on my behalf and

b) knobbish actions deserve to get called out for what they are ie fucking twattish wankerous arse-licking by a knob and

c) we see you hawkins👀1

Hola, I mean well , just make pickles, but I prefer debates over cursing,
MrsWooster · 28/02/2022 09:34

You don’t “mean well” tho, Hawkin. You are tone-policing and criticising while refusing to engage in the constructive debate that you profess to champion. All the while you are performing a feminine stereotype of “silly me!” that is alien to many women who refuse to perform gender. Odd.

MrsWooster · 28/02/2022 09:39

Bunbury is sitting on my shoulder, berating me for engaging with sealions… 🦭 🦭 🦭

SunniDelite · 28/02/2022 09:46

DialSquare

"Is Hawkins trying to tell us he's a master debater?"

"Take out the "de" and you're probably right. "

I don't think ickle pickle's English is good enough for him to understand this, unfortunately... :)

Ameanstreakamilewide · 28/02/2022 10:18

🦭 indeed.

I saw an autocorrect on here recently, that corrected Iggle Piggle to Iglesias Piggle.
Which rather tickled me.

🦭

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 28/02/2022 10:20

Isn’t it interesting what people chose to focus on. The Head of MI6 focuses on woke points over a gross violation of sovereignty and civil liberties. Hawkins focusses on policing women in a public space as in case we use unbecoming unfeminine language golly gosh! How dare we express annoyance at the grotesque self absorption of identity politics when we could be busying ourselves with being decorative (FOTTFSOFAWYGTFOSM - as MNetters like to sayWink)
As for the Grand Dame of sea lions isn’t it funny how some perceptions of diversity don’t seem to address that sex is a protected characteristic and GG beliefs are protected. Meaning that a complex and challenging balancing act has to be undertaken as biological women have rights they wish to protect too. To spell it out - ignoring and dismissing the views of biological women and trying to impose another world view on them would be bigotry and oppression not diversity so I am sure we are all glad that you would never intend to do that and fully respect and support all our existing legal protections and our right not to be misgendered with terms like cis.

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 28/02/2022 10:23

GC beliefs

Ameanstreakamilewide · 28/02/2022 10:23

@ChazsBrilliantAttitude

Isn’t it interesting what people chose to focus on. The Head of MI6 focuses on woke points over a gross violation of sovereignty and civil liberties. Hawkins focusses on policing women in a public space as in case we use unbecoming unfeminine language golly gosh! How dare we express annoyance at the grotesque self absorption of identity politics when we could be busying ourselves with being decorative (FOTTFSOFAWYGTFOSM - as MNetters like to sayWink) As for the Grand Dame of sea lions isn’t it funny how some perceptions of diversity don’t seem to address that sex is a protected characteristic and GG beliefs are protected. Meaning that a complex and challenging balancing act has to be undertaken as biological women have rights they wish to protect too. To spell it out - ignoring and dismissing the views of biological women and trying to impose another world view on them would be bigotry and oppression not diversity so I am sure we are all glad that you would never intend to do that and fully respect and support all our existing legal protections and our right not to be misgendered with terms like cis.
Absolutely. 'Be kind' and all the other bullshit that comes with that drivel only ever seems to go one way.

I'm sure it's just a coincidence.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 28/02/2022 10:26

Is telling Putin to #bekind not working?

Helleofabore · 28/02/2022 10:28

You are shitting us? Have we still got sodding posters pissing on about fucking cursing? Like we give a give a damn about fuckers who police our language? Bugger that. That is just dick behaviour. Like seriously rooted.

SirVixofVixHall · 28/02/2022 10:33

@Theluggage15

His tweeting of the comment from a staff member saying they were ‘relieved’ to find there was an LGBT network group, as if without one a workplace would be unsafe or something is irritating.

I feel threatened by Russia actually Robin and would prefer the head of MI6 just gets on with the job of keeping the country safe than faffing about with pronouns and shit.

This.
terryleather · 28/02/2022 10:56

@Ereshkigalangcleg

Is telling Putin to #bekind not working?
GrinGrinGrin
LunaLights · 28/02/2022 11:10

@Ereshkigalangcleg

Is telling Putin to #bekind not working?
It is working about as well as it does when MN women are told to #bekind….
EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 28/02/2022 11:11

some perceptions of diversity don’t seem to address that sex is a protected characteristic and GG beliefs are protected.

Maybe hasn't reached that section in the many necessary updates to the definitive text that was obsolete in primary areas almost immediately on publication?

TooBigForMyBoots · 28/02/2022 11:12

I have a suspicion that the poster enjoys strip searching policing women IRL too.🤔

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