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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

UK Physios

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Calyx72 · 11/02/2022 20:56

Please sign into CSP and look at the new iCSP discussion "Stonewall and the CSP"

A great thread beginning and agreement that stonewall are problematic and women's rights are being overlapped by male rights

Then a HUGE ESSAY by a TRA

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stealtheatingtunnocks · 03/08/2022 11:50

Sex matters post is well timed

thanks Maya!

id be very interested in knowing who is on the “iCSP team”.

or “Stasi” for short

RadFizz · 03/08/2022 12:16

It's probably just some lackeys following instructions from higher up.

Calyx72 · 03/08/2022 13:52

Thanks @stealtheatingtunnocks
it was all I could think of through my anger
Don’t expect it to help but maybe some will see and read it and realise they can’t just take sides like that

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EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 03/08/2022 14:17

stealtheatingtunnocks · 03/08/2022 11:50

Sex matters post is well timed

thanks Maya!

id be very interested in knowing who is on the “iCSP team”.

or “Stasi” for short

Is this a new Sex Matters post?

bringmelaughter · 05/08/2022 22:37

The LGBT etc network seem a bit unhappy. twitter.com/csplgbtqia/status/1555476931688251392?s=21&t=8hPwgMhHb4cHs-Au8b1baw

That they can’t see that their last sentence on taking a zero tolerance approach to the oppression and marginalisation of all women is not possible while insisting that any discussion acknowledging the balance of competing needs of women and trans identifying people is transphobic.

I’m concerned that this group are going to push and push at the csp to move further towards a trans centred rather than balanced approach.

Lovelyricepudding · 06/08/2022 09:14

Not a physio but how can physios claim men/women if a matter of feelings and provide safe care? If they fail to acknowledge the difference between sexes then how do they provide appropriate clinical treatment?

stealtheatingtunnocks · 06/08/2022 11:59

a good question, @Lovelyricepudding

id add, “is it reasonable to send a woman a physio who calls her a terf or Karen online”

Calyx72 · 06/08/2022 13:21

bringmelaughter · 05/08/2022 22:37

The LGBT etc network seem a bit unhappy. twitter.com/csplgbtqia/status/1555476931688251392?s=21&t=8hPwgMhHb4cHs-Au8b1baw

That they can’t see that their last sentence on taking a zero tolerance approach to the oppression and marginalisation of all women is not possible while insisting that any discussion acknowledging the balance of competing needs of women and trans identifying people is transphobic.

I’m concerned that this group are going to push and push at the csp to move further towards a trans centred rather than balanced approach.

They really are annoyed.

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vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 06/08/2022 14:16

I can't work out who they are. They just look like an informal group.

RadFizz · 06/08/2022 16:33

@vivariumvivariumsvivaria https://www.csp.org.uk/networks/diversity-networks/how-networks-operate

They don't sound that informal if they get to influence policy.

stealtheatingtunnocks · 06/08/2022 17:22

You can Self identify as intersex? Isn’t that offensive?

intersec is a medical condition not an identity and not the same as deaf wheee some people don’t feel disabled by it?

stealtheatingtunnocks · 08/08/2022 10:08

Just got my member satisfaction survey from CSP. They ask about my politics and a lot about micro agggressions.

m they so mention sex as a characteristic. And if I understand allyship.

it is liked to my number I think so they know I’d I have opened it and responded?

Calyx72 · 08/08/2022 12:44

stealtheatingtunnocks · 08/08/2022 10:08

Just got my member satisfaction survey from CSP. They ask about my politics and a lot about micro agggressions.

m they so mention sex as a characteristic. And if I understand allyship.

it is liked to my number I think so they know I’d I have opened it and responded?

I just answered it.
I told them how unsatisfied I am with censorship of gc voices on icsp

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Calyx72 · 08/08/2022 12:44

I didn't enter the prize draw 😅

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stealtheatingtunnocks · 08/08/2022 14:04

This is getting worse. twitter.com/csplgbtqia/status/1555196949070057472?s=21&t=yJW810tuOOoEnymJ4XSz2w

I might enter a prize draw. I think they should be compensating me for my forced participation.

RadFizz · 08/08/2022 22:50

It's concerning that the network is now apparently influencing policy but posts nonsense like that.

Greycatwhitepaws · 09/08/2022 08:58

Interesting how little reach is being achieved. The I am furious my union has achieved one like

Calyx72 · 09/08/2022 15:09

They are hiding replies Shock

Document links gc with far right etc.

Such rubbish!

Unprofessional, biased, one-sided and shutting down discussion.

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Calyx72 · 09/08/2022 15:10

Sorry that was about the Twitter item linked by @stealtheatingtunnocks and mentioned by @RadFizz

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stealtheatingtunnocks · 09/08/2022 15:47

RT by the Green Party spouting bollicks and getting pushback ans not support twitter.com/carla_denyer/status/1555630503394516992?s=21&t=2pl6Bp0vN--2rGFJW6SRoQ

and Darren Brown RTd. Of course.

stealtheatingtunnocks · 09/08/2022 15:48

It’s just anti science. I’m inclined to let them just find their own tail and eat it. There is no end to the purity spiral, presumably that is why they are hiding their own replies?

stealtheatingtunnocks · 09/08/2022 16:10

Rob Yeldham has posted that there is misonformsiron about what employers require, added a link to equality employment stuff and no context.

im not sure what his point is. The thread isn’t about employment.

for a communication director his communication is opaque.

RadFizz · 09/08/2022 21:19

Did he bother even reading the other comments?

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 10/08/2022 14:19

I agree with Rob that there is misinformation - but most of it is coming from CSP exec and EDB committee and CSP/spinoff twitter.

I'm seriously considering leaving the CSP. I can get insurance elsewhere and I want no part of this level of incompetence which is doing harm.

I won't resign quietly, either.

stealtheatingtunnocks · 10/08/2022 14:28

Do we know who Jackson is? Does this deny my WORIADS?

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