#AskRapeCrisisScotland

[MaudTheInvincible]

Is trending at number 1 in the UK at present. I haven't been around all day so I'm not sure what this has happened in response to and came here to find out, but there aren't any threads. Heart breaking reading these stories and the effects on rape victims who can't access support services because they've been excluded by male-centring policy.

@CatherinaJTV

Nothing you say helps young women who have been raped. The recent anti-trans protest action to flood Rape Crisis Scotland line with vexatious calls will have actually prevented rape victims from getting help.

Receipts for that action, please?

Google comes up with precisely zero hits!

In any case = oh! I made that up?

What strikes me, coming from a medical family, is how different this approach is even from how the general medical system was run before the woke era. It was a matter of pride that everyone, even real bigots, were treated appropriately in the health system. Which did not mean reeducating them or calling them out on their bigotry.

If it's not appropriate when you are getting your appendix out, maybe also not when you have been sexually assaulted.

maybe there's something good yet to come from your preoccupation with a trans woman's GRC.

I couldn't care less whether this person has a GRC or not, they aren't suitable for this job.

I'm going to donate to women's services which don't see their female users as a woke missionary project or an opportunity to advance their personal interests.

@CatherinaJTV

Nothing you say helps young women who have been raped. The recent anti-trans protest action to flood Rape Crisis Scotland line with vexatious calls will have actually prevented rape victims from getting help.

No.

As a rape victim, the presence of male bodied people would keep me away.

@Jaysmith71

If I am whatever I say I am, what if I say I'm a liar?

😱 💥 (that's my head exploding)

You are on some crusade, but you are not helping women access support. It's as easy as that. A crusade based in reality.

You haven't managed to explain/prove anything you hold to be true yet!

Oh and BTW old women get raped too.

Don't they count? Ageism?

Relevant thread www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4318605-I-think-Ive-figured-out-why-the-Guilty-Feminists-feel-guilty

@CatherinaJTV

In any case - I've gone and donated to Edinburgh Rape Crisis and I see that many others have too, so maybe there's something good yet to come from your preoccupation with a trans woman's GRC.

It's not about that though is it? It's the comments made about reframing trauma. But it's convenient for you to pretend otherwise.

@CatherinaJTV

Nothing you say helps young women who have been raped. The recent anti-trans protest action to flood Rape Crisis Scotland line with vexatious calls will have actually prevented rape victims from getting help.

Which action was that? Not seen anyone suggesting that.

Interesting account of a meeting with MW posted on the other thread virginiasroom.co.uk/f/on-validation-and-tolerance

@ClaraMumsnet can I ask why your post says 'trans rights moderation policy' when the title of the document you linked to is 'Mumsnet moderation principles for discussions around gender identity and sex'? If there is a 'trans rights' moderation policy, where is the corresponding 'women's rights' policy?

Also, a poster on this thread has used the word 'cultish' to refer to GC beliefs. I have seen many women's posts deleted for using the word cult or cultish in respect to gender ideology. Why has this apparent breach of the rules been allowed to stand?

If that claim is a lie or unproven assumption it should be retracted or deleted.

It's not about that though is it? It's the comments made about reframing trauma. But it's convenient for you to pretend otherwise.

It is.

Dean of the Faculty Of Advocates agrees with MN women, by the way.

'Rape crisis does amazing work. And I do not have their expertise or knowledge. But in my respectful view, there is nothing “bigoted” in a victim of sexual violence wishing a say on whomsoever is to provide counselling at what must be a horrendously traumatic time.'

mobile.twitter.com/RoddyQC/status/1425086901258706954?fbclid=IwAR16m1c0hyu-e9q8uAy-TAK5jNFmLppWR8lopkASdqTT_EmvpOaPe-wU8mw

I think we'll wait a long time for that!

I said the same as many on here, in a different way but I'm deleted and as yet no one else is?

Regards a 'campaign', I did see a tweet from a trans activist earlier asking for people to 'flood' the # to ... well, you can read it for yourself:

mobile.twitter.com/faemarienne/status/1425172465106489349

That's all I've seen.

@ClaraMumsnet in addition, users have asked for the following to be amended so that instead of reading -
'We don’t allow posts which are derogatory or aggressive towards trans people. We believe there are ways to express both opinion and facts without crossing this line.'

To say instead - We don’t allow posts which are derogatory or aggressive. We believe there are ways to express both opinion and facts without crossing this line.

As otherwise it rather reads as if you allow posts which are derogatory or aggressive towards GC feminists.

But then, perhaps this is covered in your 'women's rights moderation policy'.

@Congressdingo

I said the same as many on here, in a different way but I'm deleted and as yet no one else is?

I was deleted too for pointing out MWs own statements.

I will say again though if language is obscured in this way it makes the things some people say seem less awful.

You must have chosen a particularly agregious combination of words?

Also why cant people talk in plain English . The statement is a load of twaddle deliberately made that way to hide a dangerous message

@Waitwhat23 Thanks for flagging the cultish post. We rely on reports of posts which break our talk guidelines so do hit report to let us know.

I've flagged your comments about the wording. We do remove posts which are aggressive or uncivil towards gender critical feminists. We don't want to remove threads, which is why we're asking that people post within the guidelines. If we have to remove half the posts on a thread, then it becomes unreadable, and then the thread is likely to be deleted.