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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Does anyone ever wonder how this will end?

609 replies

dyslek · 12/07/2021 21:22

I can see three scenarios.

  1. women lose and we end up living in some nightmarish high tec version of ancient Rome, where woman and children is a sub human resource to be exploited in anyway a man wants at an given moment.
  2. the mass hysteria quietly dies down and every kind of pretents this was never a thing (and in fact it was only those nasty feminists making a fuss that caused all this misunderstanding in the first place).
  3. due to the sheer insanity of gender idology, society slowly starts to listen to women and the horror of the unfairness wakes everyone up to womans humanity and gender stereotypes and finally totally abandoned and we all live happly ever after.
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PurpleHoodie · 16/07/2021 18:39

Have got Clubcard vouchers going spare. Wipe your tears.

We may have lost out on free wifeys. But FandF and Fig wotzit will do us right

PurpleHoodie · 16/07/2021 18:40

Swopsies. Love it.

NiceGerbil · 16/07/2021 18:53

The Russian song at Eurovision was great.

DaisiesandButtercups · 16/07/2021 19:18

Steady on ladies, we don’t want the thread to moved to Telly Addicts or wherever Eurovision discussion is acceptable. Glitterball maybe it has its very own naughty step Hmm

RedDogsBeg · 16/07/2021 19:45

I was ever so excited when I heard we were being funded not only by the American Christian Right but the Russians as well!!! I set up a special account and everything but it seems someone was being ever so mean raising my hopes and playing a joke on me 'cos I've not received anything and I've got lots and lots of things on my list of things to spend all this funding on. It's just not fair, foot-stamp.

FloralBunting · 16/07/2021 20:00

I think my favourite bit about this whole weird US fundie funding is that ridiculous Irish Tweeter (was he a comedian or something? Can't recall, don't much care) took a video of some 'GC' people laughing and mocking the accusation and tried to make out that they were admitting it was true.

He's probably screenshotting this bit of the thread now so he can spin a tale about a poor girl called Sindy who was sent to my house in a box because I angered my Russian paymasters or something.

Well, he would be if Glinner was here so he could compare willy sizes or something. He probably won't bother unless there's a man about the place. They do love a pissing contest, don't they?

PurpleHoodie · 16/07/2021 20:08

It does piss on certain peoples chips when women gather.

They have to believe, or state, a conclave of men are puliing their strings.

The reality is, men are funding physical and psychological violence in many theatres.

Including here.

#WomenWont

\TickTock

NiceGerbil · 16/07/2021 20:09

In some fundamental Christian groups in the USA. Apart from the obvious stuff (abortion etc)...

Child marriage is practiced often to legitimise girls being sexually abused by older men resulting in pregnancy.

In the more closed communities mass sexual abuse of women and girls has been uncovered more than once.

Feminist, GC, whatever. That's not the sort of thing women in general are very keen on.

I'm very unclear on why USA religious right types would care about what goes on in a country 1000s of miles away. And how they would organise getting UK women posting what they want them to say, and how they would know who to recruit etc.

NiceGerbil · 16/07/2021 20:11

I've had cash from North Korea, el Salvador and the taleban personally. You lot area missing out on some serious wonga.

(Will that be screenshot as proof Grin)

PurpleHoodie · 16/07/2021 20:15

Yes Floral.

I mean. What are the latest stats?

"80% of USAmericans don't have passports" That was from 40/30/20/10 years ago. Still the same? Insular.

And yet Euro/Northern American TRAs n MRAs bombard MN with their skewed information.

Why not Samoan stats? Or Icelandic? Gambian?

PurpleHoodie · 16/07/2021 20:17

Two for one pub meal deals are on you for the next six months!

Including dessert.

PurpleHoodie · 16/07/2021 20:20

NiceGerbil

in some fundamental Christian groups in the USA. Apart from the obvious stuff (abortion etc)

Child marriage is practiced often to legitimise girls being sexually abused by older men resulting in pregnancy.

In the more closed communities mass sexual abuse of women and girls has been uncovered more than once.

Yes. For those wondering why the USofA fully endorses child marriage.

PurpleHoodie · 16/07/2021 20:20

Not just Christian marriage. All Sects and religions.

FloralBunting · 16/07/2021 20:22

Mike Pence is clearly an evil genius. From refusing to be alone in a room with any woman other than his wife to masterminding the machinations of a powerful collective of leftie feminists hell bent on preserving women's rights to their own spaces and bodies.

Hold on, that doesn't sound right...

NiceGerbil · 16/07/2021 20:23

I'm not sure of the groups it's happening in.

I do know that in a republican state the governor refused to change the minimum age because it would interfere with religious traditions (or similar). I imagine he was talking about Christians.

NiceGerbil · 16/07/2021 20:24

Certain groups obv not all Christians!

Keepemguessing · 16/07/2021 22:38

NACALT

Enough4me · 17/07/2021 00:07

There is a better word than cis, the word 'real'. I don't appreciate ciswoman and transwoman, but I'd accept real woman and transwoman.

Female prisons, female sports, female dating apps = real women.

NiceGerbil · 17/07/2021 00:12

Given that (transwomen in the things I've seen) are in involved in both women's groups etc and trans ones.

I really don't understand why transwoman is not an identity to use and celebrate!

Tw have specific experiences etc which make sense focus on.

If TWAW then why the trans things? That's contradictory surely?

NiceGerbil · 17/07/2021 00:13

Real women is awful.

Men have always said she's not a real woman/ proper women/ lady Hmm based on their opinions.

I'd say women and transwomen is fine.

Enough4me · 17/07/2021 00:21

I'd only suggest the word 'real' to be added when it's needed to be really clear to members of the public who may be confused and when transwoman is also used; to be clear for prisons, sports, dating, child protection, healtcare & pregnancy when there is a need for space and services for 'real' women. In all other general situations woman should work as the majority understand that.

The word real would be quicker than saying biologically female.

Aparallaxia · 17/07/2021 03:11

@Enough4me

I'd only suggest the word 'real' to be added when it's needed to be really clear to members of the public who may be confused and when transwoman is also used; to be clear for prisons, sports, dating, child protection, healtcare & pregnancy when there is a need for space and services for 'real' women. In all other general situations woman should work as the majority understand that.

The word real would be quicker than saying biologically female.

I'd suggest 'XX women' but that sounds like a porn site.
NiceGerbil · 17/07/2021 04:33

Women and transwomen is fine surely? Trans women even.

I don't understand why there's not pride and power in the word.

If TWAW then why the trans groups etc?

It doesn't make sense. When it comes to some stuff it's important to be recognised as women no different in any way-twaw.
But other times the trans ID is important.

End result- it is discrimination for stuff for female people to have anything at all just for us. Even though we are the largest oppressed group on the planet, through history and all over the world.

While both stuff for women and stuff for trans people is open to tw.

Essentially we lose any way to name ourselves as a group which is massive.

Meanwhile tw use the ID of woman or trans depending on what they are doing.

IsItAKindofDream · 17/07/2021 05:24

Are we allowed to say “Man who identifies as Trans” on here.

Or “Male-to-trans”? MTT?
So we can stop with the misleading term “Transwoman”?

DaisiesandButtercups · 17/07/2021 07:34

You haven’t been deleted yet IsItAKindofDream so maybe…
Your first suggestion would be my preferred if it isn’t a deletable offence. Along with correct sex pronouns which is currently a deletable offence.