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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Who do you Truss more?

133 replies

OhHolyJesus · 01/06/2021 15:03

A deliberate Freudian slip in the title - a Twitter poll for those on the hell site.

Who do you trust more - Stonewall or Liz Truss.

A weird premise, comparing a government minister and a charity who consider themselves to be ruling the U.K. government but there you go...

twitter.com/dawnbutlerbrent/status/1399708211838607362?s=21

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Letsgetreadytocrumble · 01/06/2021 19:30

This is Dawn 'children are born without a sex' Butler yes?

ArabellaScott · 01/06/2021 19:30
Grin

'Would you rather be an alien or a robot?' (spent quite a long time arguing this yesterday)

ArabellaScott · 01/06/2021 19:30

WTF is a 'sex butler'? Wait, don't tell me.

ArabellaScott · 01/06/2021 19:31

Oh, I see the comma, now.

Erikrie · 01/06/2021 19:31

😂

PronounssheRa · 01/06/2021 19:32

@ArabellaScott

Oh, I see the comma, now.
😂
AlmondFlat · 01/06/2021 19:42

Her recent comment about people 'promoting' the tweet tells us that she is still not listening or taking replies seriously. There is little hope for her or the labour party while they continue like this.

justawoman · 01/06/2021 19:43

Excellent

Who do you Truss more?
Tibtom · 01/06/2021 19:51

@PronounssheRa

Screenshots. There are more, just search twitter.

Some MPs can be so phenomenally dense at times. 😂

Don't let them see the truth!
DeRigueurMortis · 01/06/2021 20:00

@AlmondFlat

Her recent comment about people 'promoting' the tweet tells us that she is still not listening or taking replies seriously. There is little hope for her or the labour party while they continue like this.

She's got over 150k followers but somehow still isn't getting the result she wanted.

Labour as a party are absolutely fail to read the room time and again.

It's the same patronising message of "we are/know better than you and you should think as we think" - yet they are surprised when the majority of people say - no.

They feel entitled to our vote despite sneering at us. A poll or a general election.

They never look in the mirror or take the time to get off their self created pillar of righteousness and think - actually maybe we are the nasty fuckers this time....

ConcreteUnderpants · 01/06/2021 20:07

@justawoman beat me to it!!🤣
Fabulous!

newnortherner111 · 01/06/2021 20:08

Probably the only time you will ever trust a government minister more than a pressure group, but perhaps sends a message to the Labour Party or even just to Dawn Butler.

I can imagine in a constituency with a significant number of Jewish people such as the neighbouring one of hers which includes Golders Green, the percentage not trusting Stonewall would be even less.

JellySlice · 01/06/2021 20:09

@DeRigueurMortis

Thinking about this a bit more, I feel this poll is actually an insight into where the LP has got it wrong on this issue.

They've always tried to frame it as a nasty right wing vs nice left wing issue - hence it's Truss vs Stonewall. A total lack of nuance that many people might not agree with the Tory party on a number of policies they do "trust Truss" on this.

They've never full understood that what's been at stake re: woman's rights has cut clean through "traditional" political alignments and allegiances.

And on the basis of this poll they still don't understand (or at least DB doesn't) and until they do they are continuing to alienate a lot of left leaning voters.

Strange that it hasn't occurred to them that there are women on both left and right, and centre, of the political spectrum, parents, likewise autistic people. That if voters are strongly motivated by issues of social justice, that being told they are not allowed to comment or have any opinion will be understood as social INjustice across the political spectrum.

Such a blinkered view of how people think is offensive to everyone.

Susan Anthony. Still s valid today as 150 years ago:

Who do you Truss more?
Campervan69 · 01/06/2021 20:13

teawamutu deliberately inflamatory.....

Who do you Truss more?
teawamutu · 01/06/2021 20:19

@Campervan69

teawamutu deliberately inflamatory.....
Ah, dear Katie. Never knowingly under-stated.

Incidentally, if ever you want to see what happens when your eyeballs do a complete 360... Katie does satirical cartoons about GC 'views'.

AnyOldPrion · 01/06/2021 20:21

@DeRigueurMortis

Butler is now being criticised by rainbow flag tweeps, along the lines of how stupid she was to put a twitter poll out

Grin

With any luck, she might take it down before the UK goes to sleep and the US wakes up!
ArabellaScott · 01/06/2021 20:21
Hmm

How is answering a poll 'hate'?

It's quite inflammatory to cast 'disagreement' as 'hate'.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 01/06/2021 20:22

@AlmondFlat

Her recent comment about people 'promoting' the tweet tells us that she is still not listening or taking replies seriously. There is little hope for her or the labour party while they continue like this.
Saw that coming.

Sorry*, but the wrong people are voting, doesn't cut it.

*not sorry, in the least.

justawoman · 01/06/2021 20:24

Reminds me of this:

The Solution

After the uprising of the 17th of June
The Secretary of the Writers Union
Had leaflets distributed in the Stalinallee
Stating that the people
Had forfeited the confidence of the government
And could win it back only
By redoubled efforts. Would it not be easier
In that case for the government
To dissolve the people
And elect another?
Bertolt Brecht

MaudTheInvincible · 01/06/2021 20:25

Over 55k votes and over 70% for Liz Truss.

nauticant · 01/06/2021 20:27

This looks like a weird form of trolling:

twitter.com/DawnButlerBrent/status/1399794121527775238

Mollyollydolly · 01/06/2021 20:38

Scottish actor not very happy. Don't ask people questions FFS.

Who do you Truss more?
WarOnWomen · 01/06/2021 20:39

A few quick points.

  1. Even if you believe TWAW and are allies, you're never safe.

  2. Blame transphobes for the poll not going the way it's meant to.

  3. Surely they've already forgotten about superstraight - people don't buy into this shit.

AfternoonToffee · 01/06/2021 20:46

She never actually clarified on what I am supposed to trust one more than the other. Good bottle of wine? Good picnic spot? Weather forecasting? To argue who should make the cup of tea?

ArabellaScott · 01/06/2021 20:47

[quote nauticant]This looks like a weird form of trolling:

twitter.com/DawnButlerBrent/status/1399794121527775238[/quote]
That's ... really odd. What is she trying to prove?

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