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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Laurel Hubbard to go to Tokyo

513 replies

Biscuitsanddoombar · 05/05/2021 20:59

Not a surprise and hopefully it’ll open some eyes about the utter ridiculousness of allowing someone who is male to compete against women in weightlifting

www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/may/05/trans-weightlifter-laurel-hubbard-set-to-make-history-at-tokyo-olympics

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McDuffy · 22/06/2021 07:21

Wondering exactly that kept me up last night Sophocles.

WotgunShedding · 22/06/2021 07:21

sophocles no circle to be squared - it’s already “fair and square”.

Laurel Hubbard to go to Tokyo
Laurel Hubbard to go to Tokyo
EndoplasmicReticulum · 22/06/2021 07:37

And couldn't even spell her name correctly. Zero shits given.

elgreco · 22/06/2021 07:39

If the rules were fair Laurel would not have qualified.

TheChild · 22/06/2021 07:44

They'll be discussing it on GMB in a few minutes I think, will be interesting if anyone on the panel can say they think it's fair and how they will justify it.

WeeTorag · 22/06/2021 07:44

Coming up on GMB shortly. I'm betting it's a wishy washy "be kind" conversation. They don't have the balls to challenge this stuff in GMB.

SheldonesqueTheBstard · 22/06/2021 07:55

Coming up on GMB shortly. I'm betting it's a wishy washy "be kind" conversation. They don't have the balls to challenge this stuff in GMB.

Not any more they don’t weetorag.

TheWeeDonkey · 22/06/2021 08:00

Kristi is a liar. Laurel would be out of the competition because hes a middle aged man. This makes me so angry.

2Rebecca · 22/06/2021 08:02

Excellent article. I do think the effect of trans athletes in women's sports is going to be seen to be so obviously unfair if they persist in allowing it that the situation will be reversed. It's how many female athletes are screwed over by the system until they do that that is the question.

mum2jakie · 22/06/2021 08:04

Being discussed on Good Morning Britain. Shame that the panel members only include transwomen, debating an issue that affects women in sport.

endofthelinefinally · 22/06/2021 08:05

DH actually listened to me after this item came on the ITV news briefly last night. The large photograph was helpful.

Rummikub · 22/06/2021 08:05

Watching now
India knight talking about advantages of male puberty

OvaHere · 22/06/2021 08:05

@2Rebecca

Excellent article. I do think the effect of trans athletes in women's sports is going to be seen to be so obviously unfair if they persist in allowing it that the situation will be reversed. It's how many female athletes are screwed over by the system until they do that that is the question.
A lot is my guess.
TheWeeDonkey · 22/06/2021 08:06

The lies, the lies! 😡

NecessaryScene · 22/06/2021 08:07

Here's Miranda's GBNews interview about Hubbard:

TheWeeDonkey · 22/06/2021 08:07

India just said make a trans Olympics. Finally some sense.

teawamutu · 22/06/2021 08:17

Miranda usually talks sense, so that's not a surprise at all.

The TRA contingent - I do wonder if they'll realise what a 'careful what you wish for' moment this could be.

I've always doubted sport would be the issue over prisons or medicating children - but on reflection, it's more clear cut, isn't it?

There's no safety issue, no 'but the children will commit suicide'. It's just a male-bodied person deciding that they want to compete in a voluntary activity for female-bodied people.

Rummikub · 22/06/2021 08:17

@mum2jakie

Being discussed on Good Morning Britain. Shame that the panel members only include transwomen, debating an issue that affects women in sport.
Perhaps that was a good thing. Hate suggesting women don’t have a voice but maybe it’s better as no one can say India knight doesn’t understand.
WoolOfBat · 22/06/2021 08:20

This has really brought it out more hasn’t it? Transwomen on lesbian dating apps can still fall under the radar for heterosexual men (and many heterosexual women). Many people are not on Twitter or miss any online abuse.

However, a non-passing transwoman in the Olympics will reach a completely new group of people who never thought about this before; the sports interested heterosexual man!

OhHolyJesus · 22/06/2021 08:22

Posie was talking about Hubbard and her plans for Sunday last night

corkernewyorker · 22/06/2021 08:25

GB News now Nicola Williams from FPFW

corkernewyorker · 22/06/2021 08:25

v Joanna Harper (transwoman) and advisor to Olympic committee.

NotBadConsidering · 22/06/2021 08:28

It’s ridiculous that Ross Tucker even needs to write that article, although he articulates it well. We should be discussing why everyone is pretending there isn’t an advantage, making people do the leg work to state the bleeding obvious, then still pretending it doesn’t matter even when they’ve been shown the truth by people like Tucker.

The story is the complicity of those who are wilfully ignoring this at the expense of women and girls, not any debate on the advantage.

corkernewyorker · 22/06/2021 08:36

Now Andrew Doyle. It's rather confusing hearing people talking sense about this openly without censorship or tieing themselves in knots to be pc.