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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

LGB Alliance is now a registered charity

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OhHolyJesus · 20/04/2021 12:38

It took over a year...

"LGBA applied to register as a charity in March 2020. Its purposes are to promote equality and diversity and human rights.
The test of charity status is set out in law. A charity is an organisation with exclusively charitable purposes for the public benefit, that is subject to the jurisdiction of the High Court of England and Wales. If it meets these legal tests, it will be entered on the charity register.
It is not the Commission’s role to make value judgements about the aims or ideas put forward by any organisation. Instead, its role is to decide whether an organisation’s purposes fall within the legal definition of charity.
The Commission received a number of objections to the registration of LGBA as a charity. It carefully considered these as part of making its decision. In handling this application, the Commission has had regard to the Public Sector Equality Duty.
Registered charities fall under the Commission’s regulation, and their trustees must continuously meet the legal duties and responsibilities set down under charity law. A charity can promote the rights of one or more specific groups, but may not do so whilst demeaning or denigrating the rights of others, including on social media – and the Commission will consider taking regulatory action where that occurs.
The full decision, explaining the grounds for registering the organisation and the objections that were considered, can be found on GOV.UKK_"

www.gov.uk/government/news/charity-commission-confirms-registration-of-lgb-alliance

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RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 21/04/2021 08:21

Evidence of that? Plus the whole.super sexuality thing is really homophobic and transphobic. Doesnt surprise me with the threats

It surprised me that a child and his mother would receive death threats for a video

transsloth · 21/04/2021 08:22

Could you give evidence to the claims on a "Trans Toolbox" and the BDSM and inappropriate content for primary school children?

You're asking r0wantrees for evidence? Oh, this should be good.

Sophoclesthefox · 21/04/2021 08:22

Feel ive dodged a bullet, isnt yak hair really itchy?

It’s itchy like the goddamn patriarchy, Rufus Grin

Here’s another extract from the LGB alliance’s Myths page, which is a very good read.

Myth: LGB Alliance is a hate group.
Truth: We hate waiting in for a late delivery. We hate it when the WiFi drops for no reason. We hate trailers that give away the whole movie. But we don’t hate people. We don’t practice or advocate hatred, hostility of violence towards any one or any group. If we disagree with someone, it doesn’t mean we hate them or wish them any harm.
It is perfectly possible to disagree with a person’s view or opinion without hating them or the group they are part of. Where disagreement exists it’s important to be able to have open and honest discussions; especially when it comes to human rights. So, we’re always happy to talk. In fact, that’s something we love.
We are a charity registered with the Charity Commission of England and Wales (number 1194148) and would not be able to be registered if we were a hate group. You can read the Charity Commission’s evidence-based decision to register us here:
www.gov.uk/government/publications/lgb-alliance/lgb-alliance-full-decision
To read more about what we’re all about, go to: lgballiance.org.uk/about
Source: voidifremoved.substack.com/p/fact-checking-oz-katerji

Helleofabore · 21/04/2021 08:24

Feel ive dodged a bullet, isnt yak hair really itchy?

Gotta be quick Rufus to get the prize!! It could be very itchy. But denial, it seems, can work miracles to be able to ignore discomfort.

UnkindlyMay · 21/04/2021 08:25

But you can request your doctors sex. That hasn't changed.

Hold on, ASugarr. Are you saying that you do agree that it’s reasonable for a woman to request a woman doctor (female from birth, for the avoidance of doubt)?

Good. Now, can you see anything about saying that TWAW that makes that harder to achieve?

ASugarr · 21/04/2021 08:26

@UnkindlyMay

But you can request your doctors sex. That hasn't changed.

Hold on, ASugarr. Are you saying that you do agree that it’s reasonable for a woman to request a woman doctor (female from birth, for the avoidance of doubt)?

Good. Now, can you see anything about saying that TWAW that makes that harder to achieve?

Yeah if it makes them more comfortable. No I don't see how stating the fact trans women are women changes that.
EmpressWitchDoesntBurn · 21/04/2021 08:26

Evidence of that? Plus the whole.super sexuality thing is really homophobic and transphobic. Doesnt surprise me with the threats.

Screenshots from the teenager in here. Also screenshots of the various death threats against people who support orientation based on a person’s sex.

www.womenarehuman.com/teens-superstraight-hashtag-goes-viral-trans-activists-threaten-to-harm-his-mother/

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R0wantrees · 21/04/2021 08:28

And yet, a prominent NHS trust used a rape survivors letter requesting confirmation of a female health practitioner for an intimate exam as an example of transphobia. And stonewall did NOT comment on this to correct it.

Sunday Times
December 08 2019,
'Patient branded transphobic after asking for female medic'
(extract)
A woman who asked for her NHS breast-screening to be carried out by a female-born clinician was pilloried as a transphobe by a hospital trust.

Clare Dimyon, 54, who was raped as a teenager and is a lesbian, wrote formal letters asking to be seen by a “natal female” when she went for a mammogram on Christmas Eve last year.

She made clear that after being violated by a man when she was “little more than a child” she did not consent to intimate procedures being carried out by people born as boys." (continues)
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/patient-branded-transphobic-after-asking-for-female-medic-3jh3snddt

NB Clare Dimyon is a lesbian. In 2010 she was awarded the Member of the Order of the British Empire for "services to promoting the rights of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people in central and eastern Europe".

ASugarr · 21/04/2021 08:28

[quote EmpressWitchDoesntBurn]Evidence of that? Plus the whole.super sexuality thing is really homophobic and transphobic. Doesnt surprise me with the threats.

Screenshots from the teenager in here. Also screenshots of the various death threats against people who support orientation based on a person’s sex.

www.womenarehuman.com/teens-superstraight-hashtag-goes-viral-trans-activists-threaten-to-harm-his-mother/[/quote]
Thanks for sharing.

RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 21/04/2021 08:29

[quote EmpressWitchDoesntBurn]Evidence of that? Plus the whole.super sexuality thing is really homophobic and transphobic. Doesnt surprise me with the threats.

Screenshots from the teenager in here. Also screenshots of the various death threats against people who support orientation based on a person’s sex.

www.womenarehuman.com/teens-superstraight-hashtag-goes-viral-trans-activists-threaten-to-harm-his-mother/[/quote]
Apparently its not a surprise to sugar that TRAs issue death threats to children

That is honestly a surprise to me coming from that particular poster

OhHolyJesus · 21/04/2021 08:29

If we disagree with someone, it doesn’t mean we hate them or wish them any harm.

Considering that this thread has death threats within about 5 mins this is a very timely reminder of how 'debate' actually works in normal circumstances...

It is perfectly possible to disagree with a person’s view or opinion without hating them or the group they are part of. Where disagreement exists it’s important to be able to have open and honest discussions; especially when it comes to human rights. So, we’re always happy to talk. In fact, that’s something we love.

I bet that year of ignoring requests to engage looks like a regrettable mistake to make to Stonewall now.

Now that the LGBT Advisory panel has been disbanded I wonder who they will talk to, maybe there's time now to talk to Kate and Bev and Malcolm since their schedules have opened up.

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UnkindlyMay · 21/04/2021 08:30

Ah. But transwomen are male, and thus cannot meet the patient’s need for a female doctor.

Tibtom · 21/04/2021 08:30

Could you give evidence to the claims on a "Trans Toolbox" and the BDSM and inappropriate content for primary school children?

Is this the one the coirt ruled was illegal and a host of LA removed?

What BDSM content do you think is appropriate for primary school? Shock

ASugarr · 21/04/2021 08:31

No I mean to something so disrespectful to be targetted at. I don't condone the actions others have caused, TRAs aren't the only ones so bare that in mind. However we've already seen with the likes of Tommy Robinson that this happens when people do stuff like this.

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RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 21/04/2021 08:33

Ah so its alright for a child to receive death threats as long as they say something‘disrespectful’

(Id like to make a joke about my children being disrespectful but they aren’t so I can’t...#disappointed)

ASugarr · 21/04/2021 08:34

@RufustheBadgeringReindeer

Ah so its alright for a child to receive death threats as long as they say something‘disrespectful’

(Id like to make a joke about my children being disrespectful but they aren’t so I can’t...#disappointed)

Never said it was alright to do. Clearly not. It just doesn't surprise me due to the nature of his video and this whole super sexuality thing.
ASugarr · 21/04/2021 08:36

@transsloth

Could you give evidence to the claims on a "Trans Toolbox" and the BDSM and inappropriate content for primary school children?

You're asking r0wantrees for evidence? Oh, this should be good.

Yeah still waiting for the evidence...
RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 21/04/2021 08:37

You are literally saying that It doesn’t surprise you that a ‘disrespectful’ child would receive death threats from Trans Rights Activists for a video that should have been ignored

Gotcha

R0wantrees · 21/04/2021 08:39

Tibtom Details of the withdrawn school resources containing inappropriate content including BDSM may be found on Safe Schools Alliance website.

safeschoolsallianceuk.net/legal-action-against-oxfordshire-county-council/

safeschoolsallianceuk.net/actions-comments-and-campaigns/

NB Safe Schools Alliance:

"is a group of concerned parents, grandparents, teachers, governors, and health professionals from more than 30 local education authority areas in the UK. We are from a wide range of backgrounds and have no religious or political affiliation.

Many of our members and supporters are lesbian, gay or bisexual. Many are parents, carers or grandparents of LGB or trans-identifying young people. This motivates us to ensure that schools keep every child safe and are inclusive of all.

SSA UK works with schools and educators to ensure that school policies meet the safeguarding needs of all students, and that they do this whilst taking into account the protected characteristics of the Equality Act 2010. We aim to provide clarity on the law and offer evidence-based guidance and support where conflict between protected characteristics arises."

Wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 21/04/2021 08:41

I'm delighted that the LGB Alliance have been awarded charitable status. It's a step forward.

The Charity Commission are no strangers to either controversy or considering their decisions in great depth. I remember when, despite a great deal of pressure, they denied charitable status to the Church of Scientology. The document in which they explain their decision makes fascinating reading.

assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/324212/cosfulldoc.pdf

ASugarr · 21/04/2021 08:43

@R0wantrees

Tibtom Details of the withdrawn school resources containing inappropriate content including BDSM may be found on Safe Schools Alliance website.

safeschoolsallianceuk.net/legal-action-against-oxfordshire-county-council/

safeschoolsallianceuk.net/actions-comments-and-campaigns/

NB Safe Schools Alliance:

"is a group of concerned parents, grandparents, teachers, governors, and health professionals from more than 30 local education authority areas in the UK. We are from a wide range of backgrounds and have no religious or political affiliation.

Many of our members and supporters are lesbian, gay or bisexual. Many are parents, carers or grandparents of LGB or trans-identifying young people. This motivates us to ensure that schools keep every child safe and are inclusive of all.

SSA UK works with schools and educators to ensure that school policies meet the safeguarding needs of all students, and that they do this whilst taking into account the protected characteristics of the Equality Act 2010. We aim to provide clarity on the law and offer evidence-based guidance and support where conflict between protected characteristics arises."

So it is all opinion based material they provide. They've been very open about RSE not being allowed in schools either so unfortunatly without evidence that this is actually happening and causing issues then I'm unsure what I'm meant to think. Its all opinion based.
Helleofabore · 21/04/2021 08:48

It just doesn't surprise me due to the nature of his video and this whole super sexuality thing.

It doesn’t surprise me that activists targeted a teenager and his family with the same threats they issue to women who dare say something those extremists disagree with.

It surprises me how people minimise and assign victim blame to him on this thread though.

Oh wait.

I am filling another bingo card.

ASugarr · 21/04/2021 08:50

@Helleofabore

It just doesn't surprise me due to the nature of his video and this whole super sexuality thing.

It doesn’t surprise me that activists targeted a teenager and his family with the same threats they issue to women who dare say something those extremists disagree with.

It surprises me how people minimise and assign victim blame to him on this thread though.

Oh wait.

I am filling another bingo card.

And it doesn't surprise me when the GC community do the same thing and send insult, death threats and more to TRAs. Its a two way street.
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