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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Winesalot wins ...

171 replies

QueenoftheAir · 18/02/2021 10:15

the internet today.

Thank you!

and No.

OP posts:
Winesalot · 18/02/2021 15:17
Grin
CuriousaboutSamphire · 18/02/2021 15:25

Bugger. That thread really annoyed me and my couldn't post as I have had my first ever strike (I forgot that being acerbic is bad enough, adding that to a flippant, gendered comment got me placed in the naughty step).

Maybe Maya will get a reasoned response!

Socrates11 · 18/02/2021 15:31

There were really excellent posts on that thread. Great humour & lots of unanswered questions. I copied & pasted two paragraphs from a previous poster to voice my agreement with (one of the LangCleg named people I think), which has now been deleted.

I've just repasted the two paragraphs into a word document & they are bloody spot on. Women have the right to their own political spaces and representation. That's it. No violent threats or abuse. None. Just a passionate voice speaking up for women.

Then my eye catches this line in my eagerly awaited Radical Notion that arrived today, about the centenary issue of Time & Tide (pp4-5)
"The vote was not won by sweet reasonableness, it was won by self- sacrifice and courage and -above all- by that most difficult of all forms of courage, the courage to appear violent, unreasonable, ugly."

As has been observed many times it's not how we say things that really matters it's the fact that we are even saying them. Hence all the 'know your place' comments.

Vive la Revolution!

womanity · 18/02/2021 15:47

There’s a new Radical Notion?

terryleather · 18/02/2021 16:01

Some trans women have the view that radical feminists are obsessed with trans women rather than focussing on the many real issues facing women in our society. Would the fact that this thread will shortly pass 900 posts tend to support that opinion?

Just catching up on the last few pages of the 50;50 thread and noted this...#9 in The Rules Of Misogyny...anyhoo sterling work on that thread all you vipers of FWR and Flowers for those with deletions and warnings

Socrates11 · 18/02/2021 16:02

Yep, started turning up from 16th Feb according to this thread. We are having big delays in general with the post so was very pleased to see it when I got back from work today.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4078986-The-Radical-Notion-magazine?pg=3

ArabellaScott · 18/02/2021 16:23

I got mine! Great cover. Smile

womanity · 18/02/2021 16:50

Well, that’s made my day. No-one deletes perfectly reasonable words in a magazine. 😀

I shall wait patiently.

Thewithesarehere · 18/02/2021 17:23

This topic has finally reached AIBU and I really appreciate the patience of MNHQ in letting us keep it there despite numerous attempts.

Beamur · 18/02/2021 17:39

My copy arrived this week too.

ValancyRedfern · 18/02/2021 18:04

I got my copy today!

I've signed up for the 5050 Parliament webinar on Sunday. Though to be honest I'm not sure my stress levels can take it.

womanity · 18/02/2021 18:17

Turns out mine was there too - have been ignoring it for days because I thought it was something else. 😳

HecatesCatsInFancyHats · 18/02/2021 18:37

Excellent work women of FWR. You'd think of all the issues women "should" discuss on a feminist board its female representation in politics. I wonder why that's such a thorny subject? Radical Notion also received here 👌

JoodyBlue · 18/02/2021 18:45

Well done all. I had a first deletion recently for incivility, for using a single word. I'd taken pains to be conciliatory and empathetic in my post. I was surprised at how stung I felt at the deletion. I did email MNHQ who said it wasn't a strike. I think the whole thing highlights so clearly that people are not able to discuss things any more.

FloresTorres · 18/02/2021 19:15

Delurking with Flowers
For amazing women.
I've seen some shenanigans on these threads, but the 50:50 thread was a new level of cognitive dissonance / privileged arrogance.

Well done FWR.

Rockinmomma · 18/02/2021 20:02

I read every post and I really have to say how proud it made me feel to be a woman
Everyone was so articulate and just inspirational
As for our ‘guests’ I didn’t even know who they were but whilst reading the first post I could quickly tell they were not a woman, absolutely dripping with entitlement and the attitude of ‘this is how I feel and you have to accept it’ bleeds toxic masculinity
It really felt like solidarity and like all the FWR ladies were contributing to a possibly historic thread
I say NO

ethelredonagoodday · 18/02/2021 20:12

I'm generally a lurker on this board, but I've just had a good read through that thread.
Incredible.
Thank you all. Sometimes I feel hopeless with all this, but that thread was utterly brilliant.

Delphinium20 · 18/02/2021 22:01

ThanksThanksWinesalot!!!!

Also have a strike for using the main word that represents half the adult population...but MN still allows me to swear so for that I'm fucking grateful.

Winesalot · 18/02/2021 22:23

Thank you Delphinium, it was a wild thread wasn’t it?

RedToothBrush · 18/02/2021 23:36

The elephant in the room for me is that no one wants to really talk about how the structure and culture of the two party system is just so toxic to women.

Because that would require parliament getting its head out of its own arse.

N-e-v-e-r Gonna happen as things stand.

No without wholesale democratic reform and reform of our voting system which I can't see happening in the foreseeable future. Its not even on the agenda.

RedToothBrush · 18/02/2021 23:37

That and looking at just how crap and unprofessional the yellow corner are.

drspouse · 18/02/2021 23:45

Oh I think I missed the whole thread Sad

Thewithesarehere · 19/02/2021 00:05

@drspouse

Oh I think I missed the whole thread Sad
I was banned for a week and then busy at work..
womanity · 19/02/2021 01:36

@drspouse

Oh I think I missed the whole thread Sad
The thread’s still there, just a bit holey.

Subject was about TW being in the 50 50 parliament panel. It’s dropped down active because it was full.

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