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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

James O’Brien

109 replies

EweSurname · 06/07/2020 16:59

He’s said something more than a little bit TERFY but has yet to be invited to suck lady dicks or die in a fire (as far as I can see).

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Gncq · 06/07/2020 17:04

Shock ??
The James O'brien that virtually spat in Posie Parkers face whenever she said anything like that?

bellinisurge · 06/07/2020 17:07

Has he changed his position? Which should include an apology.

EweSurname · 06/07/2020 17:08

The very one! I’m sure capitulation is just around the corner but he has been seemingly taken aback that women have been targeted for stating biological truths.

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EweSurname · 06/07/2020 17:13

He’s accepted an invitation to speak privately to a parent of a trans child, which is all well and good - I just wish there was also a willingness to listen to women sharing their concerns.

I suspect the row back might start soon.

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Kantastic · 06/07/2020 17:14

I'll take it without an apology if he really has changed his mind! That would be quite a significant indicator of the wind changing.

Half expecting something like the Boy George/Stephen King act where they seem to say something GC and then back off from it again chanting "TWAW." Ricky Gervais did similar I think at one point?

The lack of empathy for women JOB displayed in the past was very striking, I wonder what would have induced him to change his mind?

EdgeOfACoin · 06/07/2020 17:16

I was quite surprised, actually, when I heard his original stance on the subject. I hope he's starting to think things through a little bit more.

Incidentally, are people [women] still being invited to suck lady diques? Do you think the TRAs have realised that this isn't a great look for them, now that these issues are getting out into the mainstream?

PurpleHoodie · 06/07/2020 17:18

I had to stop listening to him last year after his shenanigans.

Bearded "my girls are alright n protected like ££££/ I'm alright Jack/Stuff YOUR girls/your Rights" Wokey he turned out to be. Was a tad miffed I can tell you.

Steve Allen won the award for good reason.

And there's also Nick "bing, bing, squeak" Abbot so LBC is still listenable. And Nawaaz has a brain.

HandsOffMyRights · 06/07/2020 17:18

I'm intrigued as to what the parent of the 'primary aged trans girl' wrote in reply directly after his first tweet (can't see in the screenshot....).

MummBraTheEverLeaking · 06/07/2020 17:18

From the latest responses he's tweeted to people he's already on the road to contrition for his wander into terfyland.

But yes, no suck my dick or die for James. Just sad face, disappointment, a ticking off and let us educate you offers.

nauticant · 06/07/2020 17:20

I doubt he's changed his position bellinisurge. He's like the Pippa Bunce of firmy established positions.

PurpleHoodie · 06/07/2020 17:20

What "EdgeOfACoin" said.

"Suck my ladydick"
"Suck my ladydique" is rapey.

EdgeOfACoin · 06/07/2020 17:20

Ah, shame if he's recanting!

doolallyboo · 06/07/2020 17:21

He's such a tool

Kantastic · 06/07/2020 17:21

He is getting a pile on! But it's a guilt-tripping drown-you-in-syrup pile on not a DIE IN A FIRE TERF pile on.

I wonder if he will notice for himself the difference between what he's getting and what JKR got, and draw the relevant conclusions. Seems unlikely but people can surprise you.

doolallyboo · 06/07/2020 17:22

unlikely

nauticant · 06/07/2020 17:22

firmly

EweSurname · 06/07/2020 17:22

Here you go handsoffmyrights

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Kit19 · 06/07/2020 17:23

Ha! No chance he’ll row back

Of course he will speak to the mother of a trans child but he’ll never in a million years engage with any GC feminists

He’ll speak to the mother & then post a sorrowful bunch of tweets saying that if only GC women could speak to mothers of trans children they’d realise how mean & horrible they are & how trans ppl are the most oppressed ppl ever

EweSurname · 06/07/2020 17:26

When I said row back, I meant from saying penises shouldn’t be in women only spaces.

Sadly, I don’t have much faith in James’ ability to really hear and appreciate women’s concerns.

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exwhyzed · 06/07/2020 17:38

I've heard JOBBY speak on this a few times.

I think he does get it, he just can't bear not being wokey mcwoke face and hates himself slightly for understanding completely why many people have concerns.

I don't think he gives a shit about why women are so concerned about it because he's not bothered about women. But he understands it from the point of view that he doesn't think children should be chemically sterilised, that he doesn't believe penises should be around his daughters and he wouldn't sleep with a transwoman himself even if he has no problem with transwomen generally.

I'm pretty sure if more 'Lefty' male voices spoke out out about it expressing concern he would be all over it like a rash.

ThinEndoftheWedge · 06/07/2020 17:39

Spineless and predictable.

PurpleHoodie · 06/07/2020 17:40

I actually don't agree with that Kit19.

There's a chance he still would listen to both sides, but he believes both NEED a compelling argument.

Of course GC (female and male) voices have compelling arguments.

Everyday of saying that however, the odds get longer as he ages.

He's a Lefty bloke (said with neutrality)

Right Wing men think women are private property.

Left wing men think women are public property.

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Until something negatively involving males happened to one of his own two daughters/wife, he'll go for the -

Women and womens spaces must be available for men at anytime, stance. Including women being in prison for any minor reason being raped by males who demand to be put there.

Or women who've had their ribs/arms/skull broken broken by relatives turning up at a refuge finding rats pinned to the door/a flashing male in the bathroom/a man smirking at her children as he enters the room next to her in the womens Refuge.

He may still have time to gain a conscience.

nauticant · 06/07/2020 17:41

I'd agree with that summary exwhyzed.

In many ways O'Brien presents himself as a leader when he's very much of a follower, in terms of presenting a "safe" set of views to his audience.

Impatiens · 06/07/2020 17:42

He does sound like a spineless jelly in those tweets, very different from the usual arrogant certainty, riding in on his charger.

This isn't a subject you can be wishy-washy on, you have to state your opinion and your reasons. If he can't do that he should shove off til he's made his mind up.

PurpleHoodie · 06/07/2020 17:45

I don't think he gives a shit about why women are so concerned about it because he's not bothered about women. But he understands it from the point of view that he doesn't think children should be chemically sterilised, that he doesn't believe penises should be around his daughters and he wouldn't sleep with a transwoman himself even if he has no problem with transwomen generally.

To be honest, exwhyzed (like the duality name)
is correct.

James O'B is a Lefty in the Tweets and A Righty in the streets.

Disappointed.