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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

She who will not be cancelled keeps going!

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Xanthangum · 05/07/2020 13:55

twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1279755418621878272?s=20

"When you lie about what I believe about mental health medication and when you misrepresent the views of a trans woman for whom I feel nothing but admiration and solidarity, you cross a line."

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SunsetBeetch · 11/07/2020 08:57

Archived so you don't have to give The Guardian clicks

"UK’s only trans philosophy professor to JK Rowling: Harry Potter helped me become a woman"

archive.vn/f14MO

inglory · 11/07/2020 09:14

@SunsetBeetch so is she calling all the TRAs right wing?

Cismyfatarse1 · 11/07/2020 12:17

www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/columnists/why-feminists-me-stand-jk-rowling-trans-rights-row-susan-dalgety-2910085

Brilliant article from The Scotsman. Please pass it around as much as you can.

SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito · 11/07/2020 12:22

That Scotsman article is great.

CallarMorvern · 11/07/2020 12:36

Christ, that's a good article. One that I feel I could and should share, but know that I'm not brave enough yet. But that's the crux of it, isn't it. The fear of speaking out.

HandsOffMyRights · 11/07/2020 12:47

That is a great article. Thank you for sharing.

SunsetBeetch · 11/07/2020 13:11

[quote inglory]@SunsetBeetch so is she calling all the TRAs right wing? [/quote]
Hmmm. She seems a bit confused.

ListeningQuietly · 11/07/2020 13:16

I like the Scotsman article
in essence many TRAs are just mansplaining in a frock Grin

wellbehavedwomen · 11/07/2020 13:23

The philosophy professor is completely ignoring the impact on women of male people in their spaces. I absolutely support everyone's right to live as feels best to them - that doesn't give them the right to erode the rights of others.

I don't know any women who think that trans people should lose their protections under the Equality Act. Rather a large number of trans people, though, think that women should lose theirs.

ListeningQuietly · 11/07/2020 13:29

That prof person demonstrates something that REALLY annoys me about many of the TRAs

The Transwoman who I know well knew they were in the wrong body from age 5 and surgically transitioned at 18 and low lives peacefully with her male partner.

Why do men who know they are women get married and have four kids and then only change once they can wreck a marriage ?

thirdfiddle · 11/07/2020 14:28

The casual mention of four children alongside an academic career too. That reads as a man's story, not a woman's.

ContessaferJones · 11/07/2020 18:58

I love that Scotsman article!

JiggeryWokery · 11/07/2020 19:22

Good article by Nick Cohen in the Guardian today, supporting the signatories of the Harper's letter. Sorry I'm not sure how to do a link so this may not work:

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jul/11/the-spectre-of-censorship-and-intolerance-stalks-todays-left

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/07/2020 22:15

Jiggery

I've just been reading about the Washington Post story he mentions. Shameful.

nauticant · 11/07/2020 22:29

It's surely my wishful thinking here but Nick Cohen's the motives of those who scour the web to find evidence of the sins of others are those of the inquisitor and stool pigeon maps so well onto this tweet by Janice Turner:

twitter.com/VictoriaPeckham/status/1281918453553692672

JiggeryWokery · 11/07/2020 22:46

The comments on the Washington Post story certainly indicate that 'cancel culture' is not welcomed by the readers!

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/07/2020 10:55

The comments on the Washington Post story certainly indicate that 'cancel culture' is not welcomed by the readers!

YY. I was heartened to see that, at least.

SunsetBeetch · 12/07/2020 11:02

@Ereshkigalangcleg

The comments on the Washington Post story certainly indicate that 'cancel culture' is not welcomed by the readers!

YY. I was heartened to see that, at least.

That IS good to see, as WaPo has been very woke for quite some time now.
Kljnmw3459 · 12/07/2020 15:56

The scotsman piece is really good.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/07/2020 16:01

That IS good to see, as WaPo has been very woke for quite some time now.

They continue being woke. But lots of people in the comments cancelled their subscription due to this awful story.

www.washingtonpost.com/local/social-issues/blackface-incident-at-washington-post-cartoonists-2018-halloween-party-resurfaces-amid-protests/2020/06/17/66f09bde-af2e-11ea-856d-5054296735e5_story.html?outputType=comment

CoffeeTeaChocolate · 12/07/2020 17:13

mobile.twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1282343711620431875

She now retweeted the Times article Smile

SunsetBeetch · 12/07/2020 17:57

[quote Ereshkigalangcleg]That IS good to see, as WaPo has been very woke for quite some time now.

They continue being woke. But lots of people in the comments cancelled their subscription due to this awful story.

www.washingtonpost.com/local/social-issues/blackface-incident-at-washington-post-cartoonists-2018-halloween-party-resurfaces-amid-protests/2020/06/17/66f09bde-af2e-11ea-856d-5054296735e5_story.html?outputType=comment[/quote]
Wowsers Sad

wellbehavedwomen · 12/07/2020 18:15

@thirdfiddle

The casual mention of four children alongside an academic career too. That reads as a man's story, not a woman's.
I don't think I've ever read a story on a successful woman that doesn't have at least some focus on their kids - let alone where there are four of them. Always reference to how they managed to balance both sets of responsibilities.
ListeningQuietly · 12/07/2020 19:08

I don't think I've ever read a story on a successful woman that doesn't have at least some focus on their kids - let alone where there are four of them. Always reference to how they managed to balance both sets of responsibilities.

Sorry but I have to call utter bullshit on that one
of the women over 55 who had to deal with the old world
I suspect because I've looked into it over 50% have no children

happy to be called out - link to the wiki page

BatShite · 12/07/2020 20:19

Its all they have. Lies and distortions. If they didn't do this, they would have to argue with her actual points, and we know from experience that they have no answers, at all, besides 'shut up bigot!' to any questions raised.