She who will not be cancelled keeps going!

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twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1279755418621878272?s=20

"When you lie about what I believe about mental health medication and when you misrepresent the views of a trans woman for whom I feel nothing but admiration and solidarity, you cross a line."

Well done RTB and your DH!

Go RTB’s husband! We really need men as allies here as people seem to suddenly develop the ability to listen to what they’re saying and respond in a respectful way. Which is infuriating but also very helpful!

As a woman of Nicola Horlick s generation I am in 2020 perplexed that women now demand "the other" pay for childcare.
I would really appreciate a feminist 2020 explanation of why male parents are not being asked to pay for childcare?

DH asked her if she'd read what Rowling had said. She hadn't.

Such a common theme among those who have branded her the devil. So many admit to not even having read what she wrote, yet feel the need to tell everyone what she wrote was disgusting and bigotted?! Weird behaviour. But seemingly common, remember when TRAs kicked off and told everyone to not even attempt to read the transgender trend school guidance as it was so disgusting? Yet they all slagged it off anyway and..again..made up a load of crap to argue against.

I would really appreciate a feminist 2020 explanation of why male parents are not being asked to pay for childcare?
Didnt you start a thread on that? It had some good answers

I'm getting fed up with the "she's transphobic" comments from people who haven't read it too
She shared something incredibly personal and people can't even be arsed to read it before insulting her

I've just written out my birthday card to JKR and will be putting it in the post today nicely in advance of 31 July.

I thanked her for standing up and saying what most people secretly know and for doing it in a measured and classy way.

I am sure someone has explained the mechanism before, but it strikes me that you have, say 3% of the population deeply invested in transgenderism, and about 83% who if asked directly would want the protection of single sex spaces.

However that 83% have lives and this is only a minor issue for them. They look to the Government and society to protect them and to make sensible decisions. If members of that 83% get concerned that their views are being ignored and that Self-ID is not right, and so stand up and say so, they get attacked. Why are they speaking up, its not a big deal, they will probably never come across a transwoman in a toilet, etc. They must be obsessed and phobic.

The 3% instead are allowed to make transgenderism their thing. They represent transgender views in all sorts of qualities roles. They get paid to deliver equalities training. They are enabled to carry out a form of entryism into the public sector, the media and commercial firms including banks in part under the guise of improving diversity.

FWIW I think that weird politics including Trump, Brexit and the Red Wall is all about that 83% on a range of subjects feeling that their views are not being heard. And that if politicians and the media made an effort to ensure that content reflected broad social consensus,. not just the shrillest voices, we would be able to go back to two centrist parties, one left leaning and one right.

And JKR. Thank you for standing up and speaking on behalf of all of us. It is so important for all of us. Especially more vulnerable women in prisons and refuges. Or the teenage girls effectively being groomed in their bedrooms. Or Muslim women and girls no longer allow to engage in activities as they cannot be guaranteed to be single sex.

But important for the wider democratic principle that a majority view should be heard, on this or other issues, and that respectful debate allowed to happen. (Another example was Brexit where concern about a European super state was attacked with a simplistic "you are racist" line, or indeed supporting the Republicans has become a "you are in favour of Trump, you are beyond the pale".)

I remember someone reading the transgendertrend information and saying done thing like that it all sounded very reasonable and therefore was extremely dangerous.

I heard that it sounds reasonable because years have been spent making it sound reasonable but actually it’s full of ‘dog whistles’ that you’ll only understand if you’re an expert.

My child's headteacher described Stonewall as being reputable (or similar, can't recall the exact wording).

To be fair, they've had some robust material around bullying, but the 'gender' material that is now taught at this Stonewall Champion School beggars belief.

The lobby group is riding on the coat tails of its previous reputation and strong anti-bullying messaging around LGB.

The organisation is now the very opposite of what it first aimed to be. The material is regressive, sexist and homophobic, teaching gender ideology as fact.

My gay friend is devastated at what has happened to Stonewall.

I'm sure she's crying into her millions.

variety.com/2020/film/news/jk-rowling-book-sales-harry-potter-1234708777/amp/

It came to me the other day that having had a decade or more of all things LGB needing to be celebrated, whatever they were, and the oftentimes aggressive response that raising any questions would trigger, it was inevitable that other groups perceiving the LGB umbrella as a shield of non-accountability would seek to get under it in some way.

Whilst she obviously doesn't need the money, I'd hate that there are enough people who disagree with her to compromise her book sales, because that must surely be a lot of people?😥

It'll blow over. Look at Enid Blyton, her books actually are racist and sexist but kids absolutely love them.

But even in Enid Blyton's Famous Five, the 'boyish' girl was quite happily left to wear and act how she felt comfortable. She'd have been fast tracked for puberty blockers now.

But I was more making the point that - Are there really so many people who are against her, and are willing to boycott her books? That must be a lot of people to show up in sales figures, it's the number of people that I find worrying. Ifyswim.

What a biased article sunset. So her sales have "only" risen by 10% above their already high level? I'm sure JKR will be devastated. Perhaps everyone owns a copy of HP by now??

www.amazon.co.uk/Best-Sellers-Kindle-Store-Childrens-eBooks/zgbs/digital-text/362219031/ref=zg_bs_nav_kinc_2_341689031?tag=mumsnetforu03-21

I just can't see a boycott lasting in any long term.
She has a new Cormoran Strike novel out in the autumn, will be interesting to see how that does.

If you use Amazon, Lumos is one of the charities which can benefit from AmazonSmile. Just saying ...

I did not know that, thanks

Really interesting interview with one of the people who works at Harpers
(who published the letter) and was involved with organising the letter, the whole thing is worth watching if you're interested in US politics but the part discussing JK Rowling is fairly short from 27:40 but really interesting. The journalist actually admits even though hes there to discuss free speech that hes terrified to discuss trans issues but says even with hindsight he wouldn't take her off the letter and thinks that if shes wrong on trans issues the best way is to combat her arguments with reasoned debate rather than epithets

But I was more making the point that - Are there really so many people who are against her, and are willing to boycott her books? That must be a lot of people to show up in sales figures, it's the number of people that I find worrying. Ifyswim.

Really cannot see 'boycotters' as a serious threat to JKs sales tbh. Ifg anything, the added publicity will be making her sales increase.

I didn't even know about the strike novels a month back, now have all and have watched all the tv shows of it too. I cannot be alone in this. I reckon the few who will 'boycot' will be well outnumbered by the extra people buying tbh.

Even the boycotting, could be good for her if they do it the way they claim is the best way. To burn their copies, or if they don't have one, buy one to burn for the principle. I am sure that sort of protest is massively devastating to her