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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Stephen King retweets JKR

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ScrimpshawTheSecond · 28/06/2020 18:43

Grin

A Dworkin quote.

Stephen King retweets JKR
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MilleniumHallsWalledGarden · 29/06/2020 20:09

Thanks sorry to hear that.

Unfortunately TW are almost all intact men, as Highperbolay said.

MilleniumHallsWalledGarden · 29/06/2020 20:10

Sorry, that's not what Hyperbolay said at all!!

Katypyee · 29/06/2020 20:19

@MilleniumHallsWalledGarden Unless you spend your life looking in the underwear of TW, you cannot say that is true at all. Also, why the obsession with the genitals of trans people?

Katypyee · 29/06/2020 20:22

Also, JK got King's tweet all wrong and when she posted her tweet going all 'fandom' on him, he posted back with 'Yes, Trans women are women.' She then deleted her comment and stopped following him.

teaandtoast123 · 29/06/2020 20:24

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Katypyee · 29/06/2020 20:24

@exLtEveDallas Trans crowd? So much grossness in your comment. Trans women ARE WOMEN.

SerenityNowwwww · 29/06/2020 20:24

How?

robin1984 · 29/06/2020 20:25

I have been trying to educate myself about this issue, I came across this

BaronessWrongCrowd · 29/06/2020 20:26

How are transwomen women?

robin1984 · 29/06/2020 20:27

I have been trying to educate myself about this issue, I came across this. What are the counter arguments?

blogs.scientificamerican.com/voices/stop-using-phony-science-to-justify-transphobia/

Thisismytimetoshine · 29/06/2020 20:28

[quote Katypyee]@exLtEveDallas Trans crowd? So much grossness in your comment. Trans women ARE WOMEN.[/quote]
You could sing that if you put an air to it. But we don't have to believe it...

RufustheRowlingReindeer · 29/06/2020 20:36

I have to say

I’ll rape your corpse is much grosser than anything exlteve could say

Smallsteps88 · 29/06/2020 20:40

[quote Katypyee]@exLtEveDallas Trans crowd? So much grossness in your comment. Trans women ARE WOMEN.[/quote]
So why are they called transwomen?

FloralBunting · 29/06/2020 20:40

Yes Rufus, 'trans crowd' vs 'I'll rape your corpse' are not even in the same universe of gross. And yet delicate Katy is only put out by one. Hmm.

AbsintheFriends · 29/06/2020 20:43

Also, why the obsession with the genitals of trans people?

Women are raped by penises.

Lula11 · 29/06/2020 20:45

The minute Harry, Ron, Hermione and SK have a trans partner I’ll believe them that that’s what they think, that TWAW or that TWAM.
The same goes for the posters on here that trying to get us to believe that they actually think trans women/men are biological women/men.

OldCrone · 29/06/2020 20:48

@robin1984

Have a look at this.

twitter.com/wet_hen/status/1213130009814036485

It was also discussed here (lots more links).

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3939898-counter-argument-to-this-article-please

MilleniumHallsWalledGarden · 29/06/2020 20:55

Well they frequently threaten to rape people on twitter with them, so er ...

Also the official surgery numbers don't add up

NotMiranda · 29/06/2020 20:58

@robin1984: The first section of that article, pointing out that some people are not XX or XY, refers to intersex/DSD/disorders of sexual development. These are rare in the general population: the Intersex Society of North America (isna.org/faq/frequency/ ) says frequency is between 1/1500 and 1/2000. And quite a lot of intersex people are pretty pissed off by the hijacking of their condition to make the trans case. Check out @intersexfacts on Twitter.

The second section, on "sexed brains" is complete, copper-bottomed nonsense. And incidentally, is much more akin to the sort of stuff that Mermaids put out (the "Barbie to GI Joe" scale www.butterfliesandwheels.org/2019/the-barbie-gi-joe-scale/ ) than anything any self-respecting feminist would say or subscribe to. Women as a class are discriminated against on the grounds of biological difference (smaller, weaker) and capacity for childbearing (going to go off and have babies rather than progress up the greasy pole), not some mythical brain structure.

I can't be arsed to carry on. There's gin to be drunk. Can someone else take over for the remaining paragraphs of complete bollocks?

FransDiner · 29/06/2020 21:01

why the obsession with gender and being validated?

Penises impregnate women. Millions of women. They can impregnate a woman in prison who can't then keep her child

And can rape a woman in a locker room shower

FransDiner · 29/06/2020 21:03

Why would you separate prisoners by gender identity Confused

Staffy1 · 29/06/2020 21:07

Robin1984, that first article: For some properties like brain volume and connectivity, trans people possessed values in between those typical of cisgender males and females, both before and after transitioning. Another study found that for certain brain regions, trans individuals appeared similar to cis-individuals with the same gender identity. In that same study, researchers found specific areas of the brain where trans people seemed closer to those with the same assigned sex at birth. Other researchers discovered that trans people have unique structural differences from cis-individuals. It seems to come to several different conclusions. The gist of it seems to be trans people exist, but they are different to non-trans people.

exLtEveDallas · 29/06/2020 21:11

@Katypyee no they are not. You know it. Everyone knows it. That’s the reason for the rage. Because men just hate being ridiculed.

exLtEveDallas · 29/06/2020 21:13

As for “trans crowd”. Well it’s a good enough qualifier as any, and a lot easier than saying “Transwomen, Transmen, their sycophants and their handmaidens”

Benny10 · 29/06/2020 21:26

@Highperbolay

But politics, scholarships? Men and women are equal in these disciplines and if they are looking to be treated as women isn't it the case that it's two women competing for these things on a level playing field?

Why do you think that there is a FT Top 100 Champions of Women in Business list in the first place? Is it because women are just oh so well represented in business already?

Do you also disagree with awards, positions, organisations for black and ethnic minority people as well? Would it be OK if I, as a white person, took a position which was created to try and give BAME people more representation because 'we are equal anyway'?

Maybe that makes sense in your head or in the echo chamber you exist in online but that's really not a good point. Are you telling me now you think it's a threat to women in business? That I as a man might identify as a woman to get ahead in my career?
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