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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Sunday Times: PM to scrap plan to make gender change easier

474 replies

HeyBells · 13/06/2020 22:32

Just seen this on Twitter. Anyone got a sharetoken please?

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AnneLovesGilbert · 13/06/2020 23:01

Grin doing a little happy dance

Doyoumind · 13/06/2020 23:01

Not everyone happy Thousands as the TRAs have continually rejected the third space idea.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 13/06/2020 23:02

How big is the Tory majority currently? Big enough to get legislation through the Commons if they use the party whip? I'm sure Maria Miller etc will fight it from within.

Thingybob · 13/06/2020 23:02

Ban on gay cure therapies? Will it just be sexualities or will it include gender like other countries?

Eggotchi · 13/06/2020 23:02

Actually crying. So relieved to read this!!!

MMN123 · 13/06/2020 23:03

97% say no at the moment

DRCanShoveHisWandUpHisRs · 13/06/2020 23:03

Wow, I hope the headine is a true reflection of what's actually going to happen.

FantaOra · 13/06/2020 23:03

Good, sounds pretty certain to me.

BringbackLang · 13/06/2020 23:03

Tories have an 80 seat majority, Prodigal.

OvaHere · 13/06/2020 23:04

A battle hard won if it's true. I'll hang on a little bit to see what Truss actually comes out with when the report is published.

I am fairly optimistic regarding self ID though. If any paper has the inside scoop I would expect it to be The Times.

Facefullofcake · 13/06/2020 23:05

@Thingybob

Ban on gay cure therapies? Will it just be sexualities or will it include gender like other countries?
I can't remember what was said - I was trying to type on here at the same time Blush

It's repeated at half past; I'll try pay better attention next time round!

OvaHere · 13/06/2020 23:05

When does it go online? Midnight?

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 13/06/2020 23:06

Regardless of the specifics this is already huge progress from where we were a year or two ago.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 13/06/2020 23:06

Has anyone got a subscription to the Telegraph? They should be fairly reliable in terms of having an inside line to the Tories.

MujeresLibres · 13/06/2020 23:07

Thingybob the conversion therapy bill includes gender identity. Still some work to do there to protect kids Angry

022828MAN · 13/06/2020 23:07

If this is true I'm buying a copy and framing it.

RedToothBrush · 13/06/2020 23:07

How big is the Tory majority currently? Big enough to get legislation through the Commons if they use the party whip? I'm sure Maria Miller etc will fight it from within.

Maria Miller won't get enough support for a rebellion. If they failed to manage it for the Mogg Conga Voting System they won't manage it for this.

11stoneTess · 13/06/2020 23:07

I'm both relieved and optimistic.

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 13/06/2020 23:08

FRONT FUCKING PAGE!!!!!
Of the Sunday Times!

This is amazing.

It's going to be very very interesting to see how Keir Starmer handles this now...

OvaHere · 13/06/2020 23:08

@Thingybob

Ban on gay cure therapies? Will it just be sexualities or will it include gender like other countries?
I'll be surprised if it doesn't include gender but I hope they've thought through the parameters otherwise they might end up in a contradictory mess where minors are concerned - an area they know is problematic.
PurpleCrowbarWhereIsLangCleg · 13/06/2020 23:09

Kittens I think the Tories have long since read the room.

& I don't think many other party MPs actually give a shit about trans issues - they are just wokeparroting.

I think they'll let the Cons crack on & do a bit of hand wringing on twitter about how it all makes them terribly sad.

Everyone knows this particular dead cat stinks, & no one wants to touch it - whilst equally no one is particularly keen to be the one who has to dispose of it tidily.

OvaHere · 13/06/2020 23:09

@BuzzShitbagBobbly

FRONT FUCKING PAGE!!!!! Of the Sunday Times!

This is amazing.

It's going to be very very interesting to see how Keir Starmer handles this now...

We can look forward to Wednesday and Boris Johnson being called a T*RF at PMQ! Grin
AnneLovesGilbert · 13/06/2020 23:11

Do we know Starmer’s stance?

BigGee · 13/06/2020 23:12

Scotland is sadly too woke to think. Anyone born in scotland, even if they live in england, can use the legislation to change their birth certificates, so I've no doubt some will take advantage and you'll have some interesting looking women in your bogs. Not as many as us, granted.

RedToothBrush · 13/06/2020 23:12

Ban on gay cure therapies?

Given the Tavi have been criticised for the way they've treated some young girls with parents who seem homophobic, how is this going to work?

Or will they fall under the Quack doctor clause?

And what about doctors who admit online they'd just sign off hormones just like that? And I mean UK based ones not the Spanish based law dodgers.

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