Posie Parker Interview

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Is anyone else aware that Posie is doing an interview with controversial youtuber, j.f. gariepy? didn't expect to see that...

What the fuck is this shit about policing who women speak to?

LOL, having an opinion is not policing. If Posie wants to share a platform and get endorsement from racists, that is her right.

I've never heard about this guy but watched half the interview so far.

GREAT STUFF dialogue around the issues, disagreeing on some things, nice

I thought Posie was brilliant. But did anyone listen to it until the end, after she was gone? One of the callers wanted to know if Posie was Jewish, he was chuckling and saying it wasn't relevant but she didn't seem to have any features of Jewery. Wtf?

Oooh, did I miss the bit of MN sign up where we all have to say what our qualifications are?

These are the oddest rants I've seen in a while. All scientists are autistic! People normally die in their twenties! Everyone on MN has a humanities degree!

(Mine's actually a science degree, btw. Didn't realize autism was required. Does this work in reverse? If you're on the spectrum and apply for a history degree are they meant to refuse you a place and redirect you to the physics program? What if you really like history?)

You'd all be dead without cleaners, bin men, farmers, care workers.

Many of the most important jobs can be done by any able bodied person so you'll have to excuse me while I don't sneer at people whose IQ may or may not be lower than my own which I don't know anyway as I've never taken an IQ test what with them being pretty meaningless anyway.

And Posie can talk to whoever she damn well pleases.

And 'alt-right' is another meaningless term that is flung at everyone from outright white supremicists to comedians who smoke too much pot and once had the temerity to interview Ben Shapiro on their podcast. So frankly I have no idea if some Canadian bloke I've never heard of is actually 'alt-right' or not.

I suspect our visitor may be a useful indicator of the type of audience that normally consume Mr gariepy’s output

Takes all sorts I suppose

But did anyone listen to it until the end, after she was gone? One of the callers wanted to know if Posie was Jewish, he was chuckling and saying it wasn't relevant but she didn't seem to have any features of Jewery. Wtf?

Yes. That's why I said this interview was a waste of time. I mean, I'm all for engaging with opposing political views - but that was beyond the pale for me. I guess I'm just not used to hearing stuff like that outside of "Rise of the Nazis" type documentaries...

But apparently - and thanks to Samantha for this enlightenment - he's ever so clever, and "everyone in Quebec is racist", so that's fine...

everyone in Quebec is racist

Feels a little defamatory no? Also a really shit excuse for being a racist

I actually think Russell Brand would score really highly on an IQ test, and didn't Katie Perry reveal that he actually trained as a surgeon for a year or so? She's one of those sapiosexuals, isn't she, so wouldn't have married him otherwise?

[Right, while newbie poster is distracted responding to that, let's discuss the matter in hand. I think it's an interesting tactic that will unfortunately feed into the hands of ppl saying (incorrectly) that all radfems are buddies with Nazis, but it's better than "no debate". My own personal experience arguing with MRAs on Twitter is that it's pointless as their goalposts shift all the time, but with an audience it might be now productive?]

Any to think my only stereotype about people from Quebec was that they really like poutine...

Do men who choose to speak to slightly unsavoury people get this sort of response? I’m trying to think of analogous examples

Do men who choose to speak to slightly unsavoury people get this sort of response? I’m trying to think of analogous examples

Jeremy Corbyn?

I recall Corbyn being criticised for only talking to one side eg IRA but not UDLA/UVF or Palestinians but not Israelis. I don't recall him being criticised for talking to those with opposing views though.

I don’t like being told by an empty headed Humanities graduate how unintelligent I am when I have a PhD & I’m contributing more to society than they ever will. It’s pretty rude.

It's to do with the idea that if women aren't perfect then we're terrible - angels or witches with no middle ground.

I think Posie's goal is to get the word out to as many people as possible. She/we can't control what those people do with that information and shouldn't be trying to. What we ideally want, I think, is a massive grassroots pushback against gender ideology coming from as many different groups of people as possible. If it's coming from just one group it's relatively easy to shut down, less so if it's pretty much everyone objecting other than a small group of devoted cultists.

I think Posie's goal is to get the word out to as many people as possible. She/we can't control what those people do with that information and shouldn't be trying to. What we ideally want, I think, is a massive grassroots pushback against gender ideology coming from as many different groups of people as possible. If it's coming from just one group it's relatively easy to shut down, less so if it's pretty much everyone objecting other than a small group of devoted cultists.

I'm a bit scared about this outbreak of common sense.

I was getting quite into soap opera mode, which seems to be the theme du jour.

Interesting

I did roll my eyes hard re Corbyn and the PLO

But it really looked like he was honouring terrorists and he wants to be prime minister, so not quite the same I think

Posie is very much an individual. She doesn’t represent any one else

Found online about him

On a 27 October 2017 Drunken Peasants livestream, Gariépy discussed his relationship with an autistic Drunken Peasants fan-girl who had an intellectual disability. Gariépy stated that "unfortunately, the state of Texas has ruled that she could not decide to be with me".[transcript 1] On an 18 December 2017 Andy Warski livestream, Gariépy further described the girl as being 19 years old, as his fiancée, and as being autistic and being "mentally retarded". Gariépy also asserted that the girl's father kidnapped her in order to prevent her from living with him and was intimidated by the court system.[transcript 2]

Since he claimed the incident happened around 2015, that means he would have been dating a disabled 19-year-old when he was about 31 years old. His claims about sex with autistic women are especially concerning when you consider that autistic women are about 3 times as likely as non-autistic women to experience sexual abuse.[30]

On 28 December 2017, Steven "Destiny" Bonnell read aloud the entirety of a court document from Gariépy's 29 August 2016 petition for writ of mandamusWikipedia's W.svg to the Texas Ninth Court of Appeals. Afterwards, he reached substantially different conclusions from Gariépy. Destiny asserted:[31][32]

Fucking hell. Not surprised at her but surprised that so many still leap to defend this shit. Must be nice to be able to just dismiss the racism etc as something unimportant. Others can’t of course. And no, it’s not just about talking to anyone who will listen. Since when was it okay to have abandon all principles? If these people or those with similar views gain power then we will be in significantly deeper shit than now.
And of course the TRAs are convinced that we all love this woman (I personally think she is as odious as Katie Hopkins), so it tars anyone GC with the same brush.

"Apparently, JF [Gariépy] was married to a woman [...] in another [US] state. He went down – according totheir[the parent's] side of the story, now this is one side of the story. Um, apparently he went down, he found a woman that wasseverelymentally disabled, the psychiatrist said that she had the mental capacity of a 10- or 11-year-old, tried to have a baby with her, and was trying to bring her back to wherever he lived to have a baby. He was convinced that they were fiancees, even though he's still married to another woman and there are no divorce proceedings filed. And he's also convinced that she's pregnant, even though apparently there's no evidence of her being pregnant. So he thought that he was the fiancee to somebody that was ruled as being – that having the mental faculty of a 10- or 11-year-old. Um, and then I guess her parents were, were – filed to get guardianship of this young girl because they thought she was being taken advantage of, that JF [Gariépy] was trying to capture her, take her to another state, and then make her into a baby machine. Um, and apparently the young girl didn't object to her parents becoming her guardians.Holy shit."

As for IQ, it is not the be all and end all, and is actually very controversial in the psychology of intelligence measurement and not even a psychologist would judge someone's intelligence purely on one score on a test.

The last thing I'll say on this. I saw a stupid comic (I won't post it directly but here's a link if you're interested). It makes the argument that radical feminists are aligned with the Religious Right (and by extension, other far-right groups) on this one issue (I don't agree). By going on such fringe shows, Posie Parker (and it's not the first time she has associated with pretty unpleasant characters) gives ammunition to TRAs.

Posie is just an individual but she does have a following.

Honestly, TRAs would find ammunition anyway and if they don't have any they make it up. They don't engage with facts or evidence or truth so it doesn't really matter.

It's clear nothing is ever enough- the FWR rules show this. Bending over backwards to police our language and STILL they don't want us to talk. Because women must be seen and not heard.

Posie doesn't represent anyone but herself and she can do what she wants. I think the more people that hear about this - particularly the real harms to children - the better.