Posie Parker Interview

[wprice81]

Is anyone else aware that Posie is doing an interview with controversial youtuber, j.f. gariepy? didn't expect to see that...

[BernardBlacksWineIceLolly]

Also irrational non sequiturs and pointless aggression

I feel that if I gave a shit I could be building up quite the mental picture

[LangCleg]

I think it's interesting to see Posie engage with anti-feminists on the right. She pokes and prods over a shared opposition to extremist genderism. As Kittens points out, it may well be the first time viewers have actually seen feminist arguments presented, rather than the anti-feminist fake news narrative about what feminists are actually saying.

[BernardBlacksWineIceLolly]

if there's anyone who can confidently debate with anti feminist right wingers it's Posie

it's a really brave and interesting way to go

also, due to not being her keeper I'm fine with her talking to whoever she likes

[Ineedacupofteadesperately]

I do think this squeamishness about talking to others with different opinions - even those you suspect you might find abhorrent - is a bit, well, lets say ill-advised. Know your enemy and all that. I feel it's a win win. Posie is bringing the truth about genderism to a wider audience (even if it might be an audience of people we don't particularly like - presumably they still have the right to protect their kids) and I now know about another man who has misogynistic views. So if anyone brings him up in conversation I'll know who he is.

Additional knowledge can be uncomfortable but I think on balance it is usually a good thing.

Also, what Lang said.

[ArnoldWhatshisknickers]

Hi Samantha I have a degree in the physical sciences and was raised by physicists so is it OK if I comment?

IQ is a very narrow measure of intelligence as I'm sure you are aware so I'm not sure why you brought it up in this case.

Ordinarily I would take on board your point about Pew studies over anecdote but making comments about other's IQ is rather unnecessary and distracts from it.

[Somerville]

Poise can do Posie.

I’m most interested in raising GC (and feminist) issues with people who haven’t had a chance for exposure to them bec

[ArnoldWhatshisknickers]

On the topic at hand, I seem to recall Julie Bindel shared a platform with Milo Yiannopoulos and there was a level of agreement between them regarding another member of the panel who likes to knit.

It is OK to discuss with people you don't agree with in other areas. If it wasn't we'd all be muttering to ourselves in our corners.

[OhWhatACarveUp]

I find this quite disturbing. I'm all for engaging with opposing views, but I would add a caveat that these opposing views should be within a mainstream. If you're going on alt-right shows, hoping to get a sympathetic hearing, then you might want to rethink your strategy. I think Posie hurts the cause here.

[thesamantha1990]

I was just defending myself? That person was implying that because I’m in a rush & not typing well on an iPhone I’m unintelligent?

I’m pointing out that that goes against all IQ literature we have. It’s the bumbling scientist stereotype who doesn’t communicate well (the James Watson’s of the world) who have the highest IQ’s & achieve the most, & people like Russel Brand who’d score high in literacy don’t score high in general intelligence.

I know of JF because he’s a Quebec scientist & I had friends who knew him when i worked in Montreal. I’ve never met him but that’s how I knew about his channel.

And it’s always hilarious for scientists to be patronised by someone who probably doesn’t have a real job.

[BernardBlacksWineIceLolly]

I think Posie hurts the cause here

I'm not sure what part of 'there is no organised single GC cause' is so tricky to understand

individual women make individual decisions about what they want to do

it's a good thing

[Somerville]

Toddler grabbed my phone

... with women who haven’t been exposed to our position because of poverty, language barrier, etc. And with girls under a barrage of gender ideology at school. That’s where I want the focus - or at least to focus personally. And those women and girls are actively out off of our position when they see engagement with racists.

So despite no interest in political or ideological purity, this isn’t for me.

[Somerville]

*PUT off

[LangCleg]

And it’s always hilarious for scientists to be patronised by someone who probably doesn’t have a real job.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

[BernardBlacksWineIceLolly]

is Russell Brand big in Canada?

Actually I think I was getting him mixed up with Russell Cane, who I also loathe

Or maybe Russell Howard?

Actually, if I can have my choice of Russells I'd go for Crowe, but he's not allowed to speak and has to wear the Gladiator costume

[TheProdigalKittensReturn]

Mums don't have real jobs, you see.

[zebrasdontwearbras]

I don't agree that Posie has damaged the cause at all - my comment on "she's wasting her time" is that she's talking to an entrenched MRA who (bitter divorce or not) has a very derogatory view of women. As I said, it was all the MRA arguments I have heard before and exactly like one of the MRA threads on here started by our midnight visitors.

Anyway, it was in sharp contrast to the Dangerfield video - which was extremely funny - very worthwhile - and also by a man who I am politically opposed to.

I have no problem with posie talking to alt-righters - but I do reserve the right to harshly criticise those alt-righters when the interview is full of MRA anti-women tripe

Anyway, as you were

[Ineedacupofteadesperately]

Well, I haven't got through the whole video yet but I wish Posie had suggested he read the Relationships board of mumsnet to find out reasons that women might want to leave someone who hasn't been unfaithful. I think it might help him gain a lot of insight.

[OhWhatACarveUp]

I'm not sure what part of 'there is no organised single GC cause' is so tricky to understand. Individual women make individual decisions about what they want to do

Let me put it another way, by going on such platforms, Posie damages her cause.

[BernardBlacksWineIceLolly]

Let me put it another way, by going on such platforms, Posie damages her cause

that's a much better way to put it

it's also her problem if she damages her cause, no one else needs to take responsibility for her actions

also I don't think she's damaging her cause. pretending that people you disagree with don't exist doesn't make them actually not exist

[thesamantha1990]

I can’t read the whole thread as I’m in a rush but I just wanted to correct someone who was making bogus intelligence claims I wanted to correct.

Scientists are aware that the people who contribute the most to the world and the ones who seem the most “autistic” if that makes sense. So we’ll put up with working with people who vocally & socially aren’t the best but are geniuses with 150+ IQ’s. These are the people keeping you all alive with research, technology, medical advancements. You could all be a bit more grateful. You’d all likely be dead in your twenties if it wasn’t for these people.

I don’t like being told by an empty headed Humanities graduate how unintelligent I am when I have a PhD & I’m contributing more to society than they ever will. It’s pretty rude. We have a generation of arrogant people with pointless degrees that contribute nothing to the Physical world.

[BernardBlacksWineIceLolly]

I'm not sure talking aggressively about something completely unrelated to the topic under discussion is the best indicator of any kind of intelligence

it's kind of like barging into the pub, shouting 'Russell Brand has a lower IQ than me' and then running out again

a little strange, is what i'm saying

[vaginafetishist]

you funny

[CaptainKirksSpikeyGhost]

anyone who knows 1% of IQ literally knows that.

IQ is pretty useless anyway, i have 130 IQ but couldn't tie my shoes until adulthood.

I know which thing would have been more useful to know growing up.

[ClosdesMouches]

Bernard