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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Special trans taxi services to keep them safe

999 replies

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 04/09/2019 13:52

Hey BBC, where's our front-page promoted article and video interview about all the things women have done for and by each other, for centuries, to stay safe in public? No?

The "look at poor ickle us suffering from these things nobody has ever had to worry about before" is so infuriating. We have been living this shit forever.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-49516092/the-taxi-service-trying-to-keep-trans-people-safe

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bd67th · 06/09/2019 20:33

Only on this board would I be accused of bringing up a sexual assault to score points.

I refer you back to your response (which has sadly been deleted[1], but the gist of it was "as long as your [bd's] assault was worse than mine [kark's] then that's alright. FFS") when I brought mine up and call you, with full justification, a hypocrite.

I'm bringing it up because it's relevant.

So was I. And you accused me of attempting oneupwomanship.

[1] Can we not report posts please, unless they contain outright hate speech or jeopardise legal proceedings? It hides half the convo and hides the epic levels of self-foot-shooting.

TheAlternativeTentacle · 06/09/2019 20:34

I'm bringing it up because it's relevant

I'm asking what it is that makes a man suddenly less of a risk, when he says the magic words 'i am a woman'...because that is relevant to your argument that we are bigots for not believing them.

Wurzelsnewhead · 06/09/2019 20:36

Roses, read your post back to yourself. Stop and think about the number of women who have been sexually assaulted or raped. Why should they be told to get fucked on a feminist board of all places?
I’m not doing anything to Karl so you can stop that nonsense, it’s a dead end street. Kark has now told two posters to get fucked.
Roses, you need to take a break from this if you think that such behaviour is acceptable. Words have meanings.

TheAlternativeTentacle · 06/09/2019 20:39

I've given my views and opinion on the thread about trans taxis already, I'm never going to sit back and not pull up vile when it's dished out on here though when it comes up. It's disgusting, it really is and I know you wish I'd just shut up and pretend it never happens. Nope. I won't.

So you reported Kark then? I see.

bd67th · 06/09/2019 20:43

Just when it's being insinuated "never happens" or "vanishingly rare so not as important" (which it does come across as) I can see why she's upset and has said that.

No, you are deliberately misreading PPs to get that idea. No one has at any point stated that rare forms of sexual assault are unimportant nor that women never assault. You are fabricating this.

I refer you back to Kark's post suggesting that "you've virtually no chance of being raped" and ask who is actually doing the minimising of legitimate concerns here.

With TPAs, every accusation is an admission.

StopThePlanet · 06/09/2019 20:47

Rape with aftermath is a different tier of torture from sexual assault with aftermath.

You can't conflate the two offenses, they are separate violations.

No woman could ever rape and impregnate an intended victim.

None of my above statements are meant to invalidate or minimalize sexual assault, just to add some perspective.

RosesAndRaindrops · 06/09/2019 20:54

Roses, you need to take a break from this if you think that such behaviour is acceptable

Actually read my post to say I actually said I didn't think it was acceptable.

RosesAndRaindrops · 06/09/2019 20:57

No, you are deliberately misreading PPs to get that idea. No one has at any point stated that rare forms of sexual assault are unimportant nor that women never assault. You are fabricating this

No. I am not. It's on the thread and if you can't see it, there's no helping you.
You do not get to tell me and others that it's not there, when people have said it does read like that (isn't there a word for that, when people do that?)
I'm not fabricating anything.

Datun · 06/09/2019 20:57

I'm never going to sit back and not pull up vile when it's dished out on here though when it comes up.

Only one person has had post after post deleted. Confused

LangCleg · 06/09/2019 20:58

Is there a thread that needs distracting from or something?

RosesAndRaindrops · 06/09/2019 21:01

Only one person has had post after post deleted

Only one person has had post after post deleted? Yes, when she got upset when it seemed people were minimising her assault.
Doesn't make it right that she did, but I can see why.
Don't try to make out that other people on the thread haven't been deleted either.

BadgerOfDoom · 06/09/2019 21:02

Vanishingly tiny statistics

I'm not sure we can use that argument without being hypocrits though.

104 women a year is a vanishingly small percentage of 32 million, yet it's still regarded on here as one of the biggest problems women face.

Earlywalker · 06/09/2019 21:03

Haven’t caught up, just wanted to address @TheAlternativeTentacle quite a few pages back r.e the calpol analogy as you clearly didn’t understand.

The point was female only services are available. There’s no need to stamp feet about trans services being available when female ones are too.

I assume you very unintentionally misunderstood by saying this means I hate women.

Ereshkigal · 06/09/2019 21:08

Yes that "point" has been dealt with several times both before and since your not particularly earth shattering contribution to this thread, EW. Perhaps you should bother to catch up?

Datun · 06/09/2019 21:08

Don't try to make out that other people on the thread haven't been deleted either.

I didn't see any others. Just loads of kark's posts - difficult to miss. Confused

Earlywalker · 06/09/2019 21:11

Excuse me Eresh?
If someone accuses me personally of ‘hating women’ I will address them myself. I don’t need your permission or comment, thank you.

FlyingOink · 06/09/2019 21:12

The point was female only services are available. There’s no need to stamp feet about trans services being available when female ones are too.
Except female only taxis aren't legal. There are firms with only female drivers but none that are allowed to only pick up female fares, which discourages more females from being drivers.

And other female only services are under constant threat of vexatious litigation.

And of course, the point: nobody has a problem with trans services existing, we'd just like female only services to exist too.

Biscuit
bd67th · 06/09/2019 21:13

No one has at any point stated that rare forms of sexual assault are unimportant nor that women never assault.

It's on the thread and if you can't see it, there's no helping you.

I've read the full thread and no one has said either of those things.

Karkasaurus · 06/09/2019 21:13

I'm just writing quickly to say that I'm stepping out of this thread as it's unfortunately very much upset me.

I do appreciate that it's not right to post angry comments, so if anyone has been upset, I apologise.

Take care all.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 06/09/2019 21:15

Hope you are ok kark Flowers

FlyingOink · 06/09/2019 21:15

104 women a year is a vanishingly small percentage of 32 million, yet it's still regarded on here as one of the biggest problems women face.

Is this in reference to the number of women murdered in the UK?

RosesAndRaindrops · 06/09/2019 21:15

If someone accuses me personally of ‘hating women’ I will address them myself

Same. Which is why I addressed it too - shame we're not ladies who slink off, eh.

BadgerOfDoom · 06/09/2019 21:16

Six in five transwomen have faced transphobic attacks.

RosesAndRaindrops · 06/09/2019 21:17

I'm just writing quickly to say that I'm stepping out of this thread as it's unfortunately very much upset me

Sad Flowers
Hope you're alright

Earlywalker · 06/09/2019 21:22

Kark Flowers I hope you’re ok.

There’s plenty run by female drivers. Most people in urban areas can get a female driver if they request one.

This firm is in NY and states it’s ‘trans friendly’ not that they don’t accept non trans people. The ‘female only’ cab company opened in NY 5 years prior. This is the first of its kind, hence the news coverage. It really is pointless discussing.

Yes, female only taxi services should be available, it’s ridiculous Glasgow denied one. Female doesn’t equal safe but I know some women feel safer with females.

Not sure how any of the above means I hate women.

saying people ‘hate women’ if they have a different view, is getting just as tiresome as the ‘that’s transphobic’ BS. Would be laughable if it wasn’t so tragic.

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