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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Manchester pride usual 8 plus 3 extra

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Bespin · 24/08/2019 17:36

Looks like the usual people turned up for a photo op at Manchester pride, though to be fare there were 11 not 8 as usual.

Carry on protesting because its a good reminder of the actual numbers if that is all the people that can protest the second biggest pride in the UK.

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Datun · 24/08/2019 23:53

Lets do it to all the protected characteristics! I self define as pregnant and demand maternity leave.

ZuttZeVootEeeVro · 24/08/2019 23:56

I just read the link to Charlie's twitter above.

Totally blown away by it. Charlie is awesome.

Yes. Charlie is very brave.

We have to remember that there are some very dangerous men and women who will use children. They will lie to children, telling them that their bodies are wrong.

But at least more and more people are becoming aware, and are seeing what these dangerous people are trying to do.

ErrolTheDragon · 24/08/2019 23:57

Women (and men) can be whatever sexuality they happen to be.
but if by 'define their own sexuality' you mean 'arbitrarily change the meaning of words' then no.

A woman who is attracted to males - whether they're masculine or feminine males - isn't homosexual. She's heterosexual or bi.

stumbledin · 25/08/2019 00:00

Part of me thinks no one should have wasted time responding to this childish thread.

Put just to say whatever the number, the fact they were there, the fact that the reality of detransitioning was voiced out loud is great.

And lots of support twitter.com/hashtag/GetTheLOut?src=hash

spinninghag · 25/08/2019 00:01

@Bespin

A male can never be a lesbian.

No matter what that male is wearing.

No matter what the male calls themselves.

No matter how long the male has claimed a feminine internal sense of self.

No matter how sincerely that male wants to identify as a lesbian.

No matter how long that male is on cross-sex hormones.

No matter whether the male has had their testicles removed and penis inverted into an orifice that attempts to mimic a vulva and vagina.

Never. Not one male becomes female. Not one can be a lesbian. A male who wants to have sex with a lesbian is a heterosexual male. And any female who has sex with that male is engaging in a heterosexual act. Not lesbian.

Saying you want to call yourself the word lesbian doesn't make a sex act between male and female anything but heterosexual. I really do not care how much a straight couple wants to call themselves queer or whatever. Words have meaning.

All women are asking for is to be allowed to have their boundaries, their own spaces, to define themselves. To have discussions about women's needs without having to always centre those born bepenised in every. single. thing.

I really don't understand why it seems so very difficult for males (no matter how they identify) to leave females, especially lesbians, alone.

Datun · 25/08/2019 00:02

Good idea stumbledin - let's get the word out there. (As well as the L).

mobile.twitter.com/hashtag/GetTheLOut?src=hash

2BthatUnnoticed · 25/08/2019 00:02

Lesbianism is the only sexuality which excludes persons born male.

The good news is that heterosexual, gay, bisexual, pansexual and now homogenderal all include them!

Everyone can therefore feel included, validated and seen 😊

Aberhonddu · 25/08/2019 00:07

Bespin
I will respect anybody's right to define their sexuality. You don't appear to be capable of extending that same courtesy to others.
You state that all the Lesbian women you know are happy to have sex with transwo men. The Lesbian women that have a problem with not wanting to have sex with a bepenised person are now being deemed as transphobic. You mock them every time you post,
You give away more and more of your character every time you post.
It's clear to me that you really give no fucks about women at all.
So I'm not going to bother any more
@littlbrowndog
💪💪 sometimes it's not worth the headspace.

TruthOnTrial · 25/08/2019 00:11

your making a lot of guess's it's a little goady don't you think?

No. How is guessing goady exactly? OTOH, CBA.

ZuttZeVootEeeVro · 25/08/2019 00:14

Lesbianism is the only sexuality which excludes persons born male.

And that's probably why lesbians are targeted by male people.

2BthatUnnoticed · 25/08/2019 00:35

Yes exactly Zutt.. And if, despite having no fewer than five recognised sexualities to choose from (including homogenderal), they still want to take “lesbian” away from lesbians?

It really reveals their agenda.

TheInebriati · 25/08/2019 00:49

twitter.com/charlie_sci/status/1165369008801091589?s=19

Today, the more you shouted at me that I was a cnt, the more you told me to fck off, the more I cried and trembled - the higher I raised this banner.

I will not stop protesting against a movement that teaches children they are (or can be) born in the wrong body.

It's time to tear down gender.

It's time to change society to fit the gender non conforming.

It's time to stop teaching children that they can be born wrong.

We're here.
We're not 'queer'.
And we're not going away.

Charlie Evans.

GirlDownUnder · 25/08/2019 01:02

I don't follow people I disagree with unlike some people do.

Yet here you are Bespin 🤦‍♀️

You’re a ‘lesbian’ right? Tis why you’re so invested in this and wanting to change the meaning of the word lesbian.

Like you’re a ‘woman’ and want to also change the meaning of the word.

Possibly also the meaning of the word ‘debate’.

What other definitions of words should we change for you?

GirlDownUnder · 25/08/2019 01:08

Charlie Evans

Bloody hell Star

She reminded me of one of my fav artists Labi Siffre - So Strong

The higher you build your barriers
The taller I become
The further you take my rights away
The faster I will run
You can deny me, you can decide
To turn your face away
No matter 'cause there's

Something inside so strong
I know that I can make it
Though you're doing me wrong, so wrong
You thought that my pride was gone, oh no
There's something inside so strong
Oh, something inside so strong

emerencemaybehopeful · 25/08/2019 01:14

I saw this twitter thread mentioned but not the link (I might have missed it)

threadreaderapp.com/thread/1165369008801091589.html

I think most of us know why Bespin is feeling unwelcome. What I can't understand is what Bespin believes the value is of continuing to post here.

I salute you, brave women who have frightened men by peacefully protesting. I wish it were not necessary.

Birdsfoottrefoil · 25/08/2019 01:18

No. How is guessing goady exactly? OTOH, CBA

Not sure about goady but guessing is bound to be transphobic...

AnotherAdultHumanFemale · 25/08/2019 01:26

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Birdsfoottrefoil · 25/08/2019 01:27

GirlDownUnder

Literal, Violence, Female, Sex, Penis, Vagina, safeguarding, paedophilia, Hate, phobia, oppression, privilege, homosexual, misogyny, mum, dad, girl, boy, safe, rape, truth, reality...

2BthatUnnoticed · 25/08/2019 02:03

Freaking TRAs. They seem to think that womanhood = long hair + dress.

Ridiculous conservatism. But it does prove the point of those brave women’s protest though.

(1) women, born female, are women. Who gives a fuck what they wear?

(2) the fucked up idea that girls and women must be laydee-like contributed to that particular woman thinking she had to “transition” just to be accepted.

Brava, courageous women

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GirlDownUnder · 25/08/2019 02:21

Some people don’t have the brains they were born with.

GirlDownUnder · 25/08/2019 02:23

Birdsfoottrefoil

Good start on that list - Bespin will be pleased Smile

Agrona · 25/08/2019 04:13

Birdsfootfoil

Maybe include biology?

MouthyHarpy · 25/08/2019 06:29

it seems to have got worse since spinster started

Oh I know - those pesky women, daring to have opinions

SheWhoMustBeSilent · 25/08/2019 07:19

Bespin

You asked me this question:

please if you can answer this one question. what do you say to all the self identifed lesbians who are ok with trans woman, mostly post op as I agree most lesbians don't like penis. Well the ones I know anyway, but the lesbians who I know who have slept with trans woman. why don't They have the right to define there sexuality?

My answer would be this:

It seems you misunderstand what the term 'lesbian' means. The term lesbian means female homosexual.

What you are labelling as 'lesbian' is in fact heterosexuality or bisexuality. These are the two sexualities that involve people of the opposite sex. Given that no human can change sex, any woman engaging in sexual relations with an autogynephilic man is an expression of heterosexuality.

beatriceprior · 25/08/2019 07:21

What's spinster?

I've typed spinster into the App Store but nothing comes up?