the lesbians who I know who have slept with trans woman. why don't They have the right to define there sexuality?
And disingenuously you paint it again as a 'live and let live' issue.
Lesbians (actual ones) didn't start this.
As a lesbian, I saw people 'choosing' labels to call themselves that weren't actually true and thought 'you're kidding yourself, but whatever. If you want to pretend and it makes you happy crack on'.
So far we're on the same page.
And then we got to the cotton ceiling. Bloody workshops being held on how to coerce homo sexual women into sex they didn't want with males just because those males wanted to be women and wanted the validation of a sex partner exclusively attracted to females. And the selfishness and the utter disregard for others and the sexual violence implicit there shocked the living fuck out of me.
And then I saw that 'lesbian' was becoming a dangerous word, including death threats, rape threats, etc because it implies you say no to men who want to be women.
I saw women who argued that no, they didn't want to be harassed for sex by males (still male however they identify), to have to repeatedly justify against cries of bigot and anger that they were not sexually attracted to male bodies, I started to see the articles and the videos about how I needed to get over my 'vagina fetish' in order to not say no to men who want to be women. And I saw pure conversion therapy, suggestions of corrective rape as solutions and blatant homophobia that is nothing more than a new, dressed up way for men to force lesbian women to say yes to sex with them with a veneer of 'right being on their side'. We live in sick times.
Now you repeatedly say that you don't agree with women being harassed for sex, cotton ceiling all the rest of it. But every post you make props up exactly that agenda. It facilitates and furthers that anti woman, homophobic agenda. You are actually fine with that agenda so long as it's not in plain sight, and your main goal in your endless niggling here is to moan about and harass women for saying no to men and get in line. And you know it.
By your logic, if the American Army had all identified as Native Americans when they began to ethnically cleanse the American West what they did and how they did it would have been perfectly moral and understandable. How could anyone police what they were allowed to name themselves as (if they liked the identity)? And how nasty and rotten of the people driven out of their spaces and having their language banned and being oppressed to say no. To people just wanting to live their lives and be happy shitting all over them .