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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Shocking behaviour towards lesbians at Leeds 'pride' today

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MrsSnippyPants · 04/08/2019 16:41

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PennysPocket · 04/08/2019 19:26

Straight males who feel entitled to a place at the LGB table. Risible, really.

The LGB never had an agenda. They didn't want access to spaces they did not belong. They did not want to force anyone by law to touch their junk or call them vile names if they did not want to sleep with them.
They just wanted to live without abuse or be discriminated against because of who they are attracted to.

The T came along and due to male privilege, fetish and bullying have managed to undo 40 plus years of positive activism.

Feminists are fighting this but really the LGB community need to fight too as they will be tarred with the same brush.

The word peodo and pervert are once again being associated with the gay community because of the T activists... Come on lads you fought against this lie and won!! Don't let these middle aged white fetishests put you back 20 years!!

IdaBWells · 04/08/2019 19:28

Why don’t women understand how problematic it is to try and force the category of Lesbian open to include male bodies?

Sexual attraction is about biology.

The definition of homosexuality is attraction to the same sex NOT the same gender.

Alongside this is the acceptance of a newly minted term of abuse TERF which anyone (but especially men) can scream at the top of their lungs that if you substitute the word WITCH you can see exactly it’s purpose. To completely discredit a legitimate point of view by demonization, to not allow others to even ask “what exactly are so-called TERFs even saying? Who are they?” Violence, verbal abuse and intimidation are becoming acceptable responses to so-called TERFs.

How can Lesbians who fought to give homosexual people rights and recognition be demonized for being themselves?

Can’t you see who is being sidelined and demonized as a result of TRA activism: women, women’s rights, Lesbians and there is of course the usual ignoring and lack of examining how this affects black women, women of colour, working class women.

Recent reports from health care practitioners have stated that many children and teens coming into clinics identifying as TRANs are very poor. What is that even about? None of this is examined. The whole Pride movement has become centered on the desires of white men, many of whom seem to have social power and resources to quickly get their new message and ideology into schools.

The first result is the forcing down of women’s sexual boundaries. Lesbians are not allowed to have boundaries.

MinnieTheSphinx · 04/08/2019 19:39

You lot really do delude yourselves that you're somehow defending lesbians when time and time again we see evidence that the overwhelming majority of them don't feel they need defending and feel zero in common with the likes of Julia Long and her tiny handful of bigots.

NottonightJosepheen · 04/08/2019 19:42

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IdaBWells · 04/08/2019 19:43

Minnie women who have fought for years for women’s rights and Lesbian rights are bigots? Convenient.

PennysPocket · 04/08/2019 19:44

Minnie
Who's more deluded?

Those who say their penis is a female penis and that they have periods despite no womb/cervix and were born with male reproductive organs?
Or those who say lesbians are female attracted females who don't do dick have a dick or want anything to do with dicks?

Bespin · 04/08/2019 19:45

There was 100s of lesbians shouting at you that they didn't want you to be there but yet you still think you are defending all lesbians. When we went past you just looked like you were drowned out by all the support we were getting from everyone else.
Also why is there always 8 of you is it a thing?

MinnieTheSphinx · 04/08/2019 19:46

Minnie women who have fought for years for women’s rights and Lesbian rights are bigots? Convenient.

Watched some of Julia's videos humiliating trans people or shit poems talking about driving them out like snakes have you?

PennysPocket · 04/08/2019 19:47

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NottonightJosepheen · 04/08/2019 19:48

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SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 04/08/2019 19:51

You don’t want to answer any of my questions, @MinnieTheSphinx? I will assume that means you are OK with people with penises declaring themselves to be lesbians, and insisting that biologically female lesbians should happily accept their ‘lady dick’ in penetrative intercourse. And you are fine with biologically female lesbians either ‘coping with’ sex rather than actually enjoying it, or being abused for saying ‘No, I don’t want penetrative sex with your penis’.

IdaBWells · 04/08/2019 19:52

So Minnie your POV is that women who disagree with you should shut up? And that homosexual women especially are not allowed to disagree with men?

Bespin · 04/08/2019 19:53

I won't bother you are not with the effort.

that's what most people seem to be saying about the protest. we were further back in the parade and when we got there most people were just leaving them to it and you really could not hear them. just looked like 2 banners and 8 woman in black t shirts. it was busy though and we got so much support from people on the way round.

Bespin · 04/08/2019 19:55

it's sad that people can come to pride and not appear to be having a good time. There were 1000s of people having so much fun and joining in 5 fives loads of people this year and so many trans flags more than I've ever seen.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 04/08/2019 19:58

@Bespin - do you think that biologically female lesbians should accept ‘just coping’ with penetrative sex with a ‘lady dick’ just because the biological male the dick belongs to says they are a female lesbian? Lesbians don’t deserve mind blowing sex? But do deserve to be abused for expressing their preference for female genitalia?

BarrenFieldofFucks · 04/08/2019 19:59

So men can shoot about wanting to fuck other men dressed as dogs, children etc but women can't shout about not wanting to fuck penises? Gotcha.

NottonightJosepheen · 04/08/2019 19:59

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PennysPocket · 04/08/2019 20:00

Your point?

There is no mass protest because the masses don't believe humans can change sex or there is such a thing as a female penis.
Once the trans issue starts to affect straight nales there will be uproar.
As it is only females are affected... Reason being its straight white males with kinks that are driving it. Until males not wearing skirts are told they must suck female penis the protests will be small.

Small protests are the most courageous as they cannot hide behind 100s of faces they stand alone and proud.

FloralBunting · 04/08/2019 20:02

Who gives a fuck if women are talking about their boundaries and rights and being shouted down by chanting crowds? That same crowd loves me!

ScrimshawTheSecond · 04/08/2019 20:02

Maybe it would be helpful if Pride organisers could issue a list to say what is and isn't acceptable for people attending?

Is a T-shirt with 'Lesbian' acceptable? Or is that too terfy?

Bespin · 04/08/2019 20:03

no one should ever be forced to have any type of sex they don't want. I am fine for lesbians not to want sex with trans people. I'm also OK with woman who identify as lesbian and do find it OK to sleep with trans woman. I would not wish to erase them or tell them they are not lesbians. there were a lot of lesbians there like that today. so I think there's enough for you not to have to sleep with anyone you don't want to.

LangCleg · 04/08/2019 20:04

I see any vile behaviour can be excused by Woke Gilead. Colour me shocked.

Bespin · 04/08/2019 20:05

also there were signs next to yours that said dykes for trans rights. are those woman not lesbians?

Bespin · 04/08/2019 20:07

I do hope you were polite enough to go other to them and explain to them that they are not infact dykes because you said so.